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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:54 pm    Post subject: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

folks, can anyone point me to a source, or even just the ID (TE? AMP?), of the spring terminals found in the 14 pin dash cluster connector?
brickwerks apparently had them:
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/electrical-terminal-t3-instrument-panel-electric-mirror-switch.html

But that VW part number only gives me a wire repair set - I want bare connectors.
Unless I need to buy them by the 100...
Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

Bumping this back to the top.

Also interested in locating these terminals. They also appear to be used in the brake indicator connector in the dash.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

It was some kind of the AMP twin leaf IIRC
You might find it in te.com if it is still made
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

They can be cannibalized from the seat belt warning light.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

ZsZ wrote:
It was some kind of the AMP twin leaf IIRC
You might find it in te.com if it is still made


Looks like only the small version is available: https://dk.farnell.com/en-DK/amp-te-connectivity/5...dp/2528015

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175106093588

Couldn't find any 14-16 AWG size other than in the data sheet.

https://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDECo...9004_G.pdf
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

kamzcab86 wrote:
ZsZ wrote:
It was some kind of the AMP twin leaf IIRC
You might find it in te.com if it is still made


Looks like only the small version is available: https://dk.farnell.com/en-DK/amp-te-connectivity/5...dp/2528015

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175106093588

Couldn't find any 14-16 AWG size other than in the data sheet.

https://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDECo...9004_G.pdf


Yep, that's what I found on Mouser and Digi-Key as well. Just the 17mil size. In closer examination of the twin leaf connectors from AMP/TE, the ones used in our connector housings are slightly different in that there appears to be a supplemental support "spring" of sorts, making me think that there is a similar version out there.

And a thank you goes out to ZsZ for giving me a name to these types of terminals. Also "card edge connectors"

Bottom line though, I don't have time to research these at the moment more than the 3 hours I already have. My hope was the use a new connector so that I can duplex a wire set out of the seat belt/brake light on the dash to tap into circuit 15. I really, really would rather not splice or cut into the middle of the two wires between the ign. switch either.

Any other suggestions?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

Is it these pins? I’m currently building a harness for a vw 16v and these are the pins for the amp connectors…….


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These are 13-17 gauge. I got them from digikey……and all my connectors

If it’s the ones I’ll dig up the part#
I got them two days ago…….they have 1000’s

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

Once I did find the right data sheet for the originals. I might have it somewhere on my old computer.

The Brickwerks one is for sure the same as the originals.
I assume with time the US vendors will also have some in stock
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

I`m pretty sure somebody posted their find recently about these on the forum, from TE.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

I think DanHoug has the info that was recently mentioned in another thread...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

This is the terminal…

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It’s approximately an inch / 25mm from end to end.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

If you google N0171914 you will get a lot of European hits that appear to have stock
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

Geato wrote:
If you google N0171914 you will get a lot of European hits that appear to have stock


Thanks so much for that part #!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

https://brickwerks.co.uk/product/electrical-terminal-instrument-panel-edge-connector/
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

These were on BMW E30 models back in the day
part # 61 13 1 355 488
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Cluster 14 pin connector terminal source Reply with quote

panzer wrote:
These were on BMW E30 models back in the day
part # 61 13 1 355 488


They look a bit different though. Do they fit still?
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