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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:17 pm    Post subject: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

I tried several ways of searching and found no specific answers.
I recently acquired a 67 Ghia with the original motor. AS I understand the "H" code engines received the PICT1 carburetor. At some point they replaced the carb with a PICT3.
Generally the carb looks to be in good shape and the car does run well overall but I'm getting some flat spotting on acceleration. I did a rebuild and suspect there is still some fine tuning to do. I also read that I may need to take a closer look at the accelerator pump adjustment.
Anyhow, I don't want to end up chasing my tail if the the PICT3 in not a great choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

Is the carb a 34 pict 3? Paired with an 009 distributor?
That is a known bad combination.

You'd be better off with a 30 Pict 1 and a 205K distributor. That's a great pairing for the SP 67 engine.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

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Is the carb a 34 pict 3? Paired with an 009 distributor?
That is a known bad combination.

You'd be better off with a 30 Pict 1 and a 205K distributor. That's a great pairing for the SP 67 engine.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

My SC has an H case engine, now 1600, and I added a 30 pict 3 carb rebuilt by Volksbitz. It runs great with the Bosch 205T sva distributor. The only thing I had to do was add a spacer between the carb and intake in order for the idle shutoff to clear the generator.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

I assume this is a 30 PICT3.

How many degrees do you have your engine timed?

Are you able to get the engine to idle?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

No matter if it is the 30 or 31 Pict3, you need to replace either the carb to one that corresponds with the distributor, - or the distributor to one that corresponds with the carb.
Since it is a ´67 I lean towards replacing the carb with the right model.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

Starting in August 1966 (start of1967 model year) the 1500 Ghia would have had a 30 pict 1 with a base stamping number of vw107-1 or vw106-1, paired with a 113.905.205K distributor. I don't know if this carb/distributor combination was continued through all of 67 or not.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

Alstrup wrote:
No matter if it is the 30 or 31 Pict3, you need to replace either the carb to one that corresponds with the distributor, - or the distributor to one that corresponds with the carb.
Since it is a ´67 I lean towards replacing the carb with the right model.

Thanks
You’re confirming what I suspecting.
I haven’t worked on stock motors for a very long time.
Any suggestions for vendors an original stock PICT1?
Looks like I’ll have a nice PICT3 for sale in the future
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

You could also run a 113 M distributor. It would have the appearance of the correct 1967 distributor with the short cap. The 113 T uses a taller cap and rotor like those on a 009. They are both vacuum advance distributors that use the same vacuum advance canister.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

heimlich wrote:
I assume this is a 30 PICT3.

How many degrees do you have your engine timed?

Are you able to get the engine to idle?

7.5 BTDC
Yes, idles well.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

FarmerBill wrote:
Starting in August 1966 (start of1967 model year) the 1500 Ghia would have had a 30 pict 1 with a base stamping number of vw107-1 or vw106-1, paired with a 113.905.205K distributor. I don't know if this carb/distributor combination was continued through all of 67 or not.

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Thanks for that.
I will double check the distributor stamping. I believe it’s original to the engine.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

Don’t overlook the heat riser condition. Lack of intake heat can do this too.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

FarmerBill wrote:
Starting in August 1966 (start of1967 model year) the 1500 Ghia would have had a 30 pict 1 with a base stamping number of vw107-1 or vw106-1, paired with a 113.905.205K distributor. I don't know if this carb/distributor combination was continued through all of 67 or not.

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The 113 K distributor was continued all the way through 1967 model year production.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

tasb wrote:
FarmerBill wrote:
Starting in August 1966 (start of1967 model year) the 1500 Ghia would have had a 30 pict 1 with a base stamping number of vw107-1 or vw106-1, paired with a 113.905.205K distributor. I don't know if this carb/distributor combination was continued through all of 67 or not.

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The 113 K distributor was continued all the way through 1967 model year production.

Thnaks for that!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

Update,
I have found a nice core that will be sent off to Tim at Volksbitz for a rebuild/restore.
I guess I will have a nice Solex PICT3 up for sale at some point.
Thanks all for your help!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

FarmerBill wrote:
Starting in August 1966 (start of1967 model year) the 1500 Ghia would have had a 30 pict 1 with a base stamping number of vw107-1 or vw106-1, paired with a 113.905.205K distributor. I don't know if this carb/distributor combination was continued through all of 67 or not.

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I confirmed that 113.905.205K is the distributor in my Ghia.
The PICT 1 I have is stamped "VW 75-1". It also has another stamp "B 6 140"
Would that be for a different model perhaps?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

VW 75-1 is for a 1300 beetle. You're looking for a 30 pict1 with what they called the "power fuel system". If you look down the throat of the carb with the float bowl closest to you you'll see a small brass tube just below and to the side of the float bowl vent tube, that's the power fuel tube. The VW 75-1 doesn't have this tube. I believe all 1500 engines had some version of the carb with the power fuel system while the 1300 engines did not.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

FarmerBill wrote:
VW 75-1 is for a 1300 beetle. You're looking for a 30 pict1 with what they called the "power fuel system". If you look down the throat of the carb with the float bowl closest to you you'll see a small brass tube just below and to the side of the float bowl vent tube, that's the power fuel tube. The VW 75-1 doesn't have this tube. I believe all 1500 engines had some version of the carb with the power fuel system while the 1300 engines did not.

Thank you for the info.
Looks like I have the wrong one or can mine be modified.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

kingkarmann wrote:
FarmerBill wrote:
Starting in August 1966 (start of1967 model year) the 1500 Ghia would have had a 30 pict 1 with a base stamping number of vw107-1 or vw106-1, paired with a 113.905.205K distributor. I don't know if this carb/distributor combination was continued through all of 67 or not.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/550893.jpg


I confirmed that 113.905.205K is the distributor in my Ghia.
The PICT 1 I have is stamped "VW 75-1". It also has another stamp "B 6 140"
Would that be for a different model perhaps?
Thanks


Those other numbers are most likely manufacturing plant number shift and date of manufacture.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Solex Pict3 Carb. Is it compatible with a 1500? Reply with quote

tasb wrote:
kingkarmann wrote:
FarmerBill wrote:
Starting in August 1966 (start of1967 model year) the 1500 Ghia would have had a 30 pict 1 with a base stamping number of vw107-1 or vw106-1, paired with a 113.905.205K distributor. I don't know if this carb/distributor combination was continued through all of 67 or not.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/550893.jpg


I confirmed that 113.905.205K is the distributor in my Ghia.
The PICT 1 I have is stamped "VW 75-1". It also has another stamp "B 6 140"
Would that be for a different model perhaps?
Thanks

Those other numbers are most likely manufacturing plant number shift and date of manufacture.

Thanks for that!
Sure wish I had known that there were variations of the PICT1😔
I’m on a fixed income!
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