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chrisflstf Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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My pedal moves about an inch before the fronts start to grab. You can check this if the front is off the ground, spin a wheel by hand and press down on the pedal. You most likely still have air, a loose mc pushrod, or rear brakes out of adjustment. Are you sure the hard lines are plumbed correctly? |
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VWAdam Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2002 Posts: 3331 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Pull the e-brake and hit the pedal again. Is it higher? If so your rear brakes need to be adjusted.
If you pump the pedal does the point of engagement raise higher? Then you still have air.
My pedal is slightly lower than it was with freshly adjusted drums. I’ve gotten used to it and I can confirm that in a legit panic stop(happened a few weeks ago), I know it’s far superior to stock. _________________ All he needed was a wheel in his hand and four on the road.
'59 Euro Beetle ragtop
'63 Standard Microbus
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Birdmanhere Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2006 Posts: 1054 Location: CANADA EH
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Anyone running “Big Meat” tires on stock rims with this kit?
I am about to pull the trigger on this kit for my bus,
I have 215/75/15 BFG tires on stock rims, stock height.
I am wondering with the 3/8 increase each side, will my tires rub?
I get no rubbing anywhere currently at full lock each way.
Any one running this combo? _________________ 66 Bus
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Birdmanhere wrote: |
Anyone running “Big Meat” tires on stock rims with this kit?
I am about to pull the trigger on this kit for my bus,
I have 215/75/15 BFG tires on stock rims, stock height.
I am wondering with the 3/8 increase each side, will my tires rub?
I get no rubbing anywhere currently at full lock each way.
Any one running this combo? |
I used to have literally that exact setup. I had BFG all terrain 215/75r15 with stock bus 15" wheels. Zero rubbing whatsoever and I drove it offroad with aggression often.
If I wanted to, I could lock up the front tires easily.
and when I say used to, I mean because I lowered the bus mildly and am still using the disc brakes. _________________ drive your split. |
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Emeraldlion Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Texarkana, TX
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Just as a note, I am all in for an early beam version. Would like to keep my link pin early spindles. _________________ 1967 Sunroof Beetle: tourist pass car
1961 SWR Kombi |
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Vanell Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2005 Posts: 23
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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I have fitted up 4 sets of Brian’s brakes and now I don’t use the 10mm outer spacer, I use Crowsfoot wheels on his kit, they just require a very small amount of grinding to fit, and they are the best brakes you could ever put on a Splitty, the pedal feel is amazing. Ian
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3450 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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I think I tried that setup, but the stick out on studs interfered with the hubcap.
Typically the corners of the wheel cutouts will rub first, at least on 15" wheels, but are easily knocked down with a grinder. Im doing a set on a friends 14" wheeled pickup now.
Edit - So others arent confused, the kit requires NO grinding, modifying anything to install. Its completely ready to go out of the box
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Birdmanhere Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2006 Posts: 1054 Location: CANADA EH
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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sled wrote: |
I used to have literally that exact setup. I had BFG all terrain 215/75r15 with stock bus 15" wheels. Zero rubbing whatsoever and I drove it offroad with aggression often.
If I wanted to, I could lock up the front tires easily.
and when I say used to, I mean because I lowered the bus mildly and am still using the disc brakes. |
Perfect.
Thanks Sled. _________________ 66 Bus
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jeremy57ride Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1319
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Emeraldlion wrote: |
Just as a note, I am all in for an early beam version. Would like to keep my link pin early spindles. |
I've been checking in with Brian of Type e regularly and the early spindle kit is almost ready for market. I'm hopeful to have my 58 single upgraded this spring. I've always been a bit of a purist, but if you drive your bus, I highly recommend this disc brake kit. Much safer braking... especially if you need a sudden stop. _________________ "If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." -Warren Miller |
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Emeraldlion Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Texarkana, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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That's awesome, I will send him a message. _________________ 1967 Sunroof Beetle: tourist pass car
1961 SWR Kombi |
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VWAdam Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2002 Posts: 3331 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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When I had questions about my kit and when I was having issues (which as you see a page or two back had nothing to do with the kit) Brian was extremely helpful via email. He definitely seems like someone who wants his product to work and the customer to be satisfied. _________________ All he needed was a wheel in his hand and four on the road.
'59 Euro Beetle ragtop
'63 Standard Microbus
Come to my show! www.volksjam.com
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3450 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3450 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Here is a pic of the GM caliper on the Type E kit. The nickel is the size of the existing drum brake wheel cylinder. Look at the monster on the GM caliper, haha. Its about 8x as large
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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keep in mind you have to account for both front wheel cylinders when comparing bore size...but yeah the disc caliper piston is much larger, and can apply much more force to the rotor with less pedal effort
that being said, it is difficult to compare drum to disc piston bores as the two different brake systems apply their braking forces differently.
the reason the pedal can travel farther and have a softer feel, is because more fluid movement is required to push a larger piston (surface area and therefore volume) but less pedal force will be required due to this leverage relationship.
and very important, you must leave the residual pressure valve in place on the REAR circuit, while removing it from the front. _________________ drive your split. |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3450 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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I just did another install of this kit on my friends 66 Single cab, 14” wheels. He just blew out a front wheel cylinder and barely made it home. I told him –“ time to upgrade to the Type E kits
He did all the removal of the old stuff and both front metal hard lines. It took me only about an hour to get the kit installed. I cleaned out the holes on the spindle to mount the brackets, torqued everything, packed the bearings, installed seal and rotors went on , no problemo.
We used Durago rotors, Raybestos calipers and Bosch semi – metallic pads. About $220 total for all
Yesterday, bled the lines, readjusted the MC pushrod. Had to fix a loose nut on the brake pedal assy. Went around 2x for bleeding. No leak, firm pedal and fronts grab as soon as the pedal moves about an inch. He just called to tell me it’s the best brakes he has ever, ever had. Nice thing about these rotors is they come with bearing races preinstalled.
I almost wish I knew someone else to convince about these as they truly are the bomb. I will never use front drums again.
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burnabystew Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2022 Posts: 1 Location: BC
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Any update on the earlier bus solution? I have a '60 bus and I would like to use this kit. It makes a lot of sense and a lot of people saying good things about it. |
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Emeraldlion Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Texarkana, TX
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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I am sure any progress is probably hampered by parts availability. No doubt Brian will update when an early kit is available. _________________ 1967 Sunroof Beetle: tourist pass car
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Bulli Klinik Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2005 Posts: 2079 Location: Bulli Klinik, Colorado Springs
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:23 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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I’m planning on putting an early, ball joint beam in a 60 panel. Since the drums are the same from 64-70, will this kit work on early BJ spindles? _________________ I've never met a Bus I didn't like.
Mike K
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VWsArent4Hippies Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 3079 Location: The Bull City
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Bulli Klinik wrote: |
I’m planning on putting an early, ball joint beam in a 60 panel. Since the drums are the same from 64-70, will this kit work on early BJ spindles? |
He has a kit for early bays. It is mostly the same as split, with a different grease seal.
https://type-emotorsports.com/products/type-e-ez-stop-baywindow-bus-disk-brake-kit-1968-1970 _________________
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Bulli Klinik Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2005 Posts: 2079 Location: Bulli Klinik, Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Type e motorsports disc brake review |
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Thanks! For some reason I didn’t see that on the site. _________________ I've never met a Bus I didn't like.
Mike K
Bulli Klinik
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