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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

Hi all, looking to find out what the different configurations for the rear cabinet on Bay Window Westfalia's were over the lifespan of the Bay Window. I know that early Bay's like the 70 that I had, had the rear cabinet to the passenger side, and ive seen some later Bay Window Westy's with the cabinet on the drivers side, like shown in the photo here. Are there just the two variations over the Bay Window lifespan? Does anyone have good photos of them with from the rear hatch with the hatch opened? Thank you!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

For westfalias, 68-73 had the same interior, with a full length closet on the passenger side/right side of the bus (veneer changed but not layout). 74-75 The closet moved to the drivers side/left side, and got shorter (bed was full width, so the cabinet was now behind the backrest of the bed). 76-79 had the cabinet in the same place, but it had different shelving/doors/veneer.

Here is the early interior (68-73)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/faux75/interior08.jpg

Crossover(?) interior (74-75)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/812043.jpg

Late berlin interior (76-79)
http://www.ultimatedennis.co.uk/vwcamper/images/vzi/westfalia-berlin4.jpg

Sorry some aren’t pictured from the hatch, tough to find specific pictures. Also, many parts/pieces may have been changed around over the years and owners, so YMMV. There was also a few european interiors that I’m not familiar enough with to comment on, as well as a few without any closet at all.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

I see that the last link is from the UK, but are the closets placed in on the same side regardless of if the vehicle is left, or right hand drive?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

Thank you dumptruck for the reply and info, very helpful. Would like to know the answer to the posters question above as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

Wouldnt right hand drive bus have the slider on the left side so layout would be opposite?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

pioneer1 wrote:
Wouldnt right hand drive bus have the slider on the left side so layout would be opposite?


That’s what I was thinking.... I came across a Beetle pic on Pinterest, so to view/download it, I needed to sign up. I’m always getting Bus pics sent in email notifications of “you may like this also”. I’ve noticed quite a few things swapped from side to side concerning steering location, but have yet to see a good pic of both closet/steering orientation. The closets are behind the opening of the slider, so slider side location most likely isn’t an issue. I have seen early pics with right hand drive vehicles with sliders on the left, and the ice box/sink on the left, where as it would be opposite on a left hand drive vehicle.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

Yes, most RHD versions are mirror image's of the LHD layouts, between those and all the different models of campers available in other parts of the world there's likely 50+ variations.

Here's a sample of some of the other versions: https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-westfalia
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Yes, most RHD versions are mirror image's of the LHD layouts, between those and all the different models of campers available in other parts of the world there's likely 50+ variations.

Here's a sample of some of the other versions: https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-westfalia


The links do show the variety of available options of interiors, but they are all specified in left hand drive vehicles. Anyone have any pics of their personal early RHD Bay with a closet on the left, or a late RHD Bay with the closet on the right?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

Hello,
livethevanlife wrote:
Are there just the two variations over the Bay Window lifespan?

See my Westfalia overview: https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-westfalia
There are more than two variations.

At the right side e.g. till 1971 with two "clamping jaw" in the front to the body and later simply screwed.

And at the left side:
e.g: SO 73/5 Offenbach:
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e.g. SO 76/1 Berlin (and many later international and US versions as P-21, P-31 etc.)
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The links do show the variety of available options of interiors, but they are all specified in left hand drive vehicles.

Westfalia mainly build for the LHD - so RHD camper sold by VW for the small markets as UK, Australia, etc are sometimes build from e.g. UK manufactures as Devon (and beside VW by Danbury, Dormobile, Holdsworth, Canterbury, ... or in Australia Trakka, ...)

There was the Westfalia "Continental" SO 72/13 you will find some infos at https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-westfalia-so-72-13-continental. And a Westfalia "Oxford" RHD specified as SO 73/11 in a list - but I have no photos or brochures of it till today...


See also:
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-vw-uk
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-vw-au
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-devon
etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

livethevanlife wrote:
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The links do show the variety of available options of interiors, but they are all specified in left hand drive vehicles.

Westfalia mainly build for the LHD - so RHD camper sold by VW for the small markets as UK, Australia, etc are sometimes build from e.g. UK manufactures as Devon (and beside VW by Danbury, Dormobile, Holdsworth, Canterbury, ... or in Australia Trakka, ...)


So, it looks like those wanting a left closet for their early Bay to be able see out the right corner, or a right closet in their late Bay just to be different are better off creating them from scratch. If/when they would find a rhd “factory” version it would be valued at a considerable amount due to the limited production. Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

Sorry to raise an old thread but I am looking for some confirmation of data on a 1979 SO76/1.

Am I correct in assuming that when the Westfalia ID plate shows...

SO76/1 9.00336

this will be the 336th vehicle of this type built in the 1979 model year?

Also did Westfalia follow the VW model year i.e. 1st August to 31st July or the calendar year 1st January to 31st December?

Your knowledge would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? Reply with quote

rod_vw wrote:
SO76/1 9.00336

my Westfalia 76/1 9.00333 was only 3 cars in front of yours Laughing

The other details are not known - there is no Westfalia archive for details since decades. Sad
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