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livethevanlife Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:43 pm Post subject: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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Hi all, looking to find out what the different configurations for the rear cabinet on Bay Window Westfalia's were over the lifespan of the Bay Window. I know that early Bay's like the 70 that I had, had the rear cabinet to the passenger side, and ive seen some later Bay Window Westy's with the cabinet on the drivers side, like shown in the photo here. Are there just the two variations over the Bay Window lifespan? Does anyone have good photos of them with from the rear hatch with the hatch opened? Thank you!
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dumptuck Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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For westfalias, 68-73 had the same interior, with a full length closet on the passenger side/right side of the bus (veneer changed but not layout). 74-75 The closet moved to the drivers side/left side, and got shorter (bed was full width, so the cabinet was now behind the backrest of the bed). 76-79 had the cabinet in the same place, but it had different shelving/doors/veneer.
Here is the early interior (68-73)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/faux75/interior08.jpg
Crossover(?) interior (74-75)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/812043.jpg
Late berlin interior (76-79)
http://www.ultimatedennis.co.uk/vwcamper/images/vzi/westfalia-berlin4.jpg
Sorry some aren’t pictured from the hatch, tough to find specific pictures. Also, many parts/pieces may have been changed around over the years and owners, so YMMV. There was also a few european interiors that I’m not familiar enough with to comment on, as well as a few without any closet at all. _________________ Erik |
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[email protected] Samba Member

Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4874 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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I see that the last link is from the UK, but are the closets placed in on the same side regardless of if the vehicle is left, or right hand drive? |
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livethevanlife Samba Member

Joined: May 18, 2015 Posts: 265 Location: La Paz, Baja California Sur
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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Thank you dumptruck for the reply and info, very helpful. Would like to know the answer to the posters question above as well. _________________ Vanagon Restorations www.LiveTheVanLife.com
The Westy Bravo https://smallcar.com/westy-bravo/
1991 Syncro Triple Knob Westfalia "Miki" 2.2l WBX
1992 Syncro Triple Knob Tintop "Schnitzel" 1.9AAZ
1990 Syncro Doka Subi 2.2l
1974 Thing
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pioneer1 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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Wouldnt right hand drive bus have the slider on the left side so layout would be opposite? _________________ "Always waiting for tomorrow ruined everything"
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[email protected] Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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pioneer1 wrote: |
Wouldnt right hand drive bus have the slider on the left side so layout would be opposite? |
That’s what I was thinking.... I came across a Beetle pic on Pinterest, so to view/download it, I needed to sign up. I’m always getting Bus pics sent in email notifications of “you may like this also”. I’ve noticed quite a few things swapped from side to side concerning steering location, but have yet to see a good pic of both closet/steering orientation. The closets are behind the opening of the slider, so slider side location most likely isn’t an issue. I have seen early pics with right hand drive vehicles with sliders on the left, and the ice box/sink on the left, where as it would be opposite on a left hand drive vehicle. |
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busdaddy Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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Yes, most RHD versions are mirror image's of the LHD layouts, between those and all the different models of campers available in other parts of the world there's likely 50+ variations.
Here's a sample of some of the other versions: https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-westfalia _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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[email protected] Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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The links do show the variety of available options of interiors, but they are all specified in left hand drive vehicles. Anyone have any pics of their personal early RHD Bay with a closet on the left, or a late RHD Bay with the closet on the right? |
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rsbadura Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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Hello,
livethevanlife wrote: |
Are there just the two variations over the Bay Window lifespan? |
See my Westfalia overview: https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-westfalia
There are more than two variations.
At the right side e.g. till 1971 with two "clamping jaw" in the front to the body and later simply screwed.
And at the left side:
e.g: SO 73/5 Offenbach:
e.g. SO 76/1 Berlin (and many later international and US versions as P-21, P-31 etc.)
[email protected] wrote: |
The links do show the variety of available options of interiors, but they are all specified in left hand drive vehicles. |
Westfalia mainly build for the LHD - so RHD camper sold by VW for the small markets as UK, Australia, etc are sometimes build from e.g. UK manufactures as Devon (and beside VW by Danbury, Dormobile, Holdsworth, Canterbury, ... or in Australia Trakka, ...)
There was the Westfalia "Continental" SO 72/13 you will find some infos at https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-westfalia-so-72-13-continental. And a Westfalia "Oxford" RHD specified as SO 73/11 in a list - but I have no photos or brochures of it till today...
See also:
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-vw-uk
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-vw-au
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/index.php?de-books-brochures-devon
etc.
regards, _________________ Rolf-Stephan Badura
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[email protected] Samba Member

Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4874 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:15 am Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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livethevanlife wrote: |
[email protected] wrote: |
The links do show the variety of available options of interiors, but they are all specified in left hand drive vehicles. |
Westfalia mainly build for the LHD - so RHD camper sold by VW for the small markets as UK, Australia, etc are sometimes build from e.g. UK manufactures as Devon (and beside VW by Danbury, Dormobile, Holdsworth, Canterbury, ... or in Australia Trakka, ...) |
So, it looks like those wanting a left closet for their early Bay to be able see out the right corner, or a right closet in their late Bay just to be different are better off creating them from scratch. If/when they would find a rhd “factory” version it would be valued at a considerable amount due to the limited production. Thanks for the info. |
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rod_vw Samba Member

Joined: December 20, 2006 Posts: 421 Location: Shropshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:03 am Post subject: Re: Differences by year of Rear Westfalia Cabinet? |
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Sorry to raise an old thread but I am looking for some confirmation of data on a 1979 SO76/1.
Am I correct in assuming that when the Westfalia ID plate shows...
SO76/1 9.00336
this will be the 336th vehicle of this type built in the 1979 model year?
Also did Westfalia follow the VW model year i.e. 1st August to 31st July or the calendar year 1st January to 31st December?
Your knowledge would be appreciated. _________________ Rod,
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rsbadura Samba Member

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