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Love My Westy Samba Member
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: VW Fires |
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Are there any vanagons on it? _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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Silverghost500 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: VW Fires |
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Bet they didn’t change their fuel lines. _________________ 1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia "Von Westy"
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3865 Location: MD
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: VW Fires |
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If only they had blazecut on their engine bay hatch!
This definitely is a more off topic appropriate thread. _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
'85 Westy Sciuridae Domus Edition |
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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: VW Fires |
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Riding quite high in the water. I guess automobiles are mostly air after all. |
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0cean Samba Member

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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: VW Fires |
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0cean wrote: |
New electic vw's and porsches? Interesting to find out the cause. |
Batteries? |
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0cean Samba Member

Joined: February 29, 2012 Posts: 1153 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:50 am Post subject: Re: VW Fires |
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Wildthings wrote: |
0cean wrote: |
New electic vw's and porsches? Interesting to find out the cause. |
Batteries? |
My first thought. Especially since it started in the cargo hold. There are alot of cases of lithiom ion batterys catching fire. Even with today's tech. Added the manufactures are not as far ahead of the curve as testla, well it's a good hunch I think. Guess we will know later after the investigation. _________________ I'm not a mechanic, I just play one on the internet
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 70931 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:18 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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There are alot of cases of lithiom ion batterys catching fire. |
I see people saying this but have also seen it said that it's BS paid for and posted by oil company people.
I'd want to see actual data.
Everything thing I've read in the past says it's a possibility in a crash where they are exposed to high temperatures or a failure of the cooling, which doesn't match up with boat transport. _________________ How to Post Photos
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challomoner Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:38 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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Damn fuel filter in engine bay strikes again |
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Klister Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:01 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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Yea, my recently purchased '91 syncro could have made those highlights - 80 yo German woman I purchased from had a few, let's say, deferred maintenance things attached to the van. Including a mist of fuel in the engine compartment. Yikes! All fuel lines getting replaced. Whew. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:25 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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EverettB wrote: |
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There are alot of cases of lithiom ion batterys catching fire. |
I see people saying this but have also seen it said that it's BS paid for and posted by oil company people.
I'd want to see actual data.
Everything thing I've read in the past says it's a possibility in a crash where they are exposed to high temperatures or a failure of the cooling, which doesn't match up with boat transport. |
Yet, couldn’t this be misinformation spread by people with an agenda of their own?
Batteries don’t play well with salt water… _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
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VW_Jimbo  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:29 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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baz76 wrote: |
Damn fuel filter in engine bay strikes again |
This was my first thought! Glad to see someone else wrote it. Thanks baz! _________________ Jimbo
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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I personally witnessed a model airplane lithium battery self destruct. Very very impressive indeed! It normally happens when they are being pushed hard either in charge or discharge. Some people say they will spontaneously combust too on their own but I have not seen that. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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Who.Me? Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
Batteries don’t play well with salt water… |
Nor do internal combustion engines. Or so I've heard.
I doubt a company shipping luxury and high-end sports cars lets them get wet in transit though. They don't just strap them to the deck and hope.  _________________ Andy
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finster Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:02 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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whatever started it, seems like batteries are on fire now...
BERLIN/LISBON, Feb 18 (Reuters) - A ship carrying around 4,000 vehicles, including Porsches, Audis and Bentleys, that caught fire near the coast of the Azores will be towed to another European country or the Bahamas, the captain of the nearest port told Reuters on Friday.
Lithium-ion batteries in the electric cars on board the vehicle carrier Felicity Ace have caught fire and the blaze requires specialist equipment to extinguish, captain Joao Mendes Cabecas of the port of Hortas said.
It was not clear whether the batteries first sparked the fire.
"The ship is burning from one end to the other... everything is on fire about five metres above the water line," Cabecas said. _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:22 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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I read a story once where the sailors under estimated the weight of a loaded pickup truck and did not use strong enough tie downs. On some extra rough seas it broke loose, and started hitting the cars in front and behind until they broke loose. This continued until all the cars on that deck where loose!
By the way back in the early '70s when my brother worked at a VW dealer, all the cars shipped from Germany were sprayed with a heavy coat of wax to protect them from the salt water mist on the way over here. It was his job to wash them off with varsol. He would come home with his hands red and bleeding every night! After 6 months of that he quit! _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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iowegian  Samba Curmudgeon

Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9913 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:34 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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oprn wrote: |
By the way back in the early '70s when my brother worked at a VW dealer, all the cars shipped from Germany were sprayed with a heavy coat of wax to protect them from the salt water mist on the way over here. It was his job to wash them off with varsol. He would come home with his hands red and bleeding every night! After 6 months of that he quit! |
That matches the explanation, by the original owner, for some of the paint loss on our '66 Beetle. It was brought over from Germany in 1969 as a used car without the benefit of wax/Cosmoline. |
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Zundfolge1432  Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:05 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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EverettB wrote: |
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There are alot of cases of lithiom ion batterys catching fire. |
I see people saying this but have also seen it said that it's BS paid for and posted by oil company people.
I'd want to see actual data.
Everything thing I've read in the past says it's a possibility in a crash where they are exposed to high temperatures or a failure of the cooling, which doesn't match up with boat transport. |
These are the same folks who are keeping they myth alive that batteries are so expensive. Do some research you’ll find the batteries last the life of the car and in most cases are serviceable. The technology is 30 plus years old now but the masses remain ignorant and that’s by design. 😜 |
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:48 am Post subject: Re: VWs on Fire on ship |
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This is what the research tells me.
It seems Tesla is not at the “life of the car” stage yet. Battery warranty is a constant 8 years across all models but the mileage varies between 100K and 150K miles. That would be consistent with my experience with model airplane batteries. They time out rather than fail with the number of cycles.
Also the cost is between $20,000 and $35,000 depending on model. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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