Best turbo kit

[Husqy510]

I'm interested in installing a turbo kit on my 66 bug. The motor is an 1835 currently running dual dellorto 40s. I am mechanical, but I don't really want to piece together a kit. I'd like a complete kit and prefer EFI. I want driveability and I'd like it fit under the hatch.

So far I've been leaning towards the CB performance with EFI, but im not crazy about the computer as they seem to have a proprietary operating system and it doesn't learn.

RAD offers a nice system with an option to upgrade to FuelTech, but I would prefer the dual throttle bodies that CB offers over the single throttle body included with the rad kit.

Ace Racing Engines builds some awesome turbo motors with FuelTech EFI but it doesn't lookvlike they offer a bolt on turbo kit.

What do you guys recommend?

[allamaabroad]

Best option is to piece things together...unless you have a very large budget, in which case I'm sure one of the turbo engine builders could put together a kit.

CB has a pretty nice header for the price, their intake and throttle body stuff as well. Their layout is pretty decent as far as fitting everything under the decklid, but I think many would agree that their EFI is pretty lacking.

Mario at The Dub Shop is phenomenal with EFI systems, I think most would recommend working with him to get all the fuel injection set up

[buguy]

Definitely look at the dub shop
He won't try to sell you more than you need and really knows his stuff.
https://thedubshop.com/

[67rustavenger]

I agree with allamaabroad. Most all turbo applications are pieced together from what you can find in the scrap yards. Or buy online.

I too looked for what the OP is searching for a few months back and came up empty handed.

My luck was, that I found a seller in the classifieds here that had his complete turbo system up for sale. I jumped on it.
I didn't wanna search for all the parts and then assemble them into what, in my case would have been a failure.
The OP likely won't get that lucky, Sorry!
Unless there is another person selling a kit of the quality that I found.

My kit came with the turbo, header, injectors, intake manifolds, intercooler, radiator and fan, all the hardware, and MS II EFI controller.
It's too bad that nobody offers such a complete kit online. And so much more than I care to list.

Mario, owner of the Dub Shop has a very good rep online and if you need advice. I'd say he's the leader, regarding EFI systems. Sadly, Dub Shop doesn't offer complete turbo kits.

Here's a complete kit from Brazil. It isn't EFI, but is fairly complete. And you can order, either single or dual carb setup.
Translate the language from Portuguese.
https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=...urbina%2Fp
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[esde]

Mario at dub shop would be my only call. Check out his stuff on Facebook, the build quality is top notch and he knows EFI systems very well.
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[Husqy510]

Thank you for the advice I will reach out to him tomorrow. I don't mind spending money on a good product, but I dont want to waste money either.

[clonebug]

With a turbo you don't need two throttle bodies. Performance wise it won't make enough difference to be worth the hassle. With a single throttle body the plumbing is much easier and you don't have to worry about the linkage and sync issues.
Getting a clean MAP signal is much easier with a single TB and it leaves more room for an intercooler for when you just "have" to turn it up...cuz the boost you are running is now boring.
A MS2 or MS3 is going to set you back a bit if you get a kit along with a turbo and exhaust.
CB has the hideaway exhaust that puts the turbo down low but it is out of stock and no ETA of when it will be back. It's also 1 5/8th inch tubing and while it might not make a lot of difference it's not needed for an 1835 turbo.

I put together my own turbo setup first with a carb to see if I liked it then two seasons later I went with EFI.
I recommend building your own because you have a better chance of understanding how it works and it is a great learning experience.
My addiction started in 2007 with finding a turbo at a swap meet that "looked" like it was a great size for my engine. 15 years later I'm still throwing money at upgrades every winter..........

Mine is a driver......not much show or bling to it but it's as reliable as any store bought car and has more hp than most any N/A stroker on this site.

I get all my EFI stuff from Mario....it helps he is only 100 miles from me and I can hold his stuff in my hands to decide if I want it.
So far I've spent some serious bucks this past winter because he had a whole bunch of cool stuff I had to have.

3.2 inch digital display.....Can-Bus Keyboard.....ECUMaster PMU-16 Power Distribution Module.
And an MS3PRO-EVO to add to the challenge.
I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel with the wiring now. It should be on the road in a week or two.

Mario has been building a couple headers and he might be persuaded to build you one.

I used a sedan header and made it work on my buggy. I have less than 100 bucks in my header......well.... with the upgrades to it in the 9 years it's been running it's a bit more...but you get the idea.
Grab a beer and look at other builds and pick the parts that will work for you.
Use the ideas to build it your way. If you don't want to build one then throw money at it until you get what you want.
Here's some stuff that will suck that money out of your pocket......

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[Paul.H]

I can put you a kit together better than the rest. You might have to source a few bits yourself but I'll tell you what you need and where to get it.

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[Paul.H]

[imtb]

Here is going to be my weapon of choice. Super sniper

[DerrickfromNC1]

I Like……Does that setup fit under a closed deck? I’m considering a similar and more simple setup with a Holley 2 barrel and a CB blackbox to control timing.

[nextgen]

Question I have always been a play it self guy, and know very little about Turbos.

Years ago when turbos stated to be popular, they were notorious for have problems. Super Charger was considered more reliable but did not have the power of the turbo.

Obviously with so many out their the problems have been solved.

So my question is, do you find the Turbos in aircooled bugs to have a normal life span .

Sure it depends on the builder, but it's just a general question.
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[clonebug]

The average VW driver doesn't put much for mileage on their vintage VW. There are exceptions but for the most part they are fair weather drivers.

I personally have driven my buggy at least 75,000 miles in the 17 years it's been on the road. It has 51,000 miles with a turbo of some sort.

If I could be happy with 10 lbs. boost I would never have to touch it.
Testing the limits does call for careful inspection if you don't want to destroy your case.
The bottom end had 46,000 miles of turbo on it and all the bearings were still in good shape along with the cam and lifters.

Keep the intake temps down and use a quality programmable ignition and you should be able to get plenty of miles out of a turbo engine.
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[nextgen]

Ok totally understandable.

I remember it was the heat that the early turbos could not take, till the manufactures went to I believe, correct me if I am wrong, was ceramic parts.
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[KEGZ]

Art, Sir. A lot of those OEM turbos are both water and oil cooled. Do you just plug the provisioning for water lines?

[Chip]

[oprn]

Oh ya! That can kill the ones with water running through them too!
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[buguy]

I don't plug the water lines. I just leave them open.