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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:12 am    Post subject: What Is This Wire Splice Block Called? Reply with quote

One key step in installing an alternator to replace the VWDub generator is joining the three (red) 10 GA wires together in the rear under-seat space. I am having a dickens of a time trying to find out what this plastic, butt-splice connector is called! And as you all know, the 'Rosetta stone' key to finding just about any Type 1 VW part is knowing what the proper designation is for the part.

Will one of you VW electrical geniuses please help me 'properly' identify this connector, so that I can obtain and keep a few around as spares? Thanks (see attached image below).

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS WIRE SPLICE BLOCK CALLED? Reply with quote

They're referred to as terminal connectors

Going down this road eh?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS WIRE SPLICE BLOCK CALLED? Reply with quote

Ah! Thanks, Mike. Yep, looks as if the 'terminal connector' that my #10 ga. alternator wires are joined with has some melt damage and for that reason one of thse big red wires has an uncertain, tenuous connection. I need a new one. As always, when one discovers more intimate details about Dubs' small parts, it helps to keep a few spares around, also! I managed to snag on a few minutes ago on eBay but I'd also like to find a source for buying some new ones (if they're still made by some clever Chinese company, LoL). The original (the melted one) has a VW logo embossed on it but the part number is undecipherable.

This same philosophy (of discovering correct nomenclature) also is quite compatible with proper 'wife management', I've found). Brick wall
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS WIRE SPLICE BLOCK CALLED? Reply with quote

PS: Just found that JBugs sells these (could have predicted that, I guess). They can be found here: https://www.jbugs.com/product/WW-QUAD.html

They refer to them as 1/4"inch, 4-post, SHROUDED terminal connectors. Eureka!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS WIRE SPLICE BLOCK CALLED? Reply with quote

And here's another seller (in Deutschland) of the same shrouded connector terminal, if anyone should in future be searching for this, as I was: https://vwkaeferersatzteile.de/Electrical/Wiring-S...:3980.html

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS WIRE SPLICE BLOCK CALLED? Reply with quote

Whoops! Looks as if, upon closer look, that shrouded terminal connector I mentioned available in Germany is not 1-4 joined, but is for 2-2 wire joins. Ah well, they probably have other bug goodies there worth checking out. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: What Is This Wire Splice Block Called? Reply with quote

1/4" connectors will not work for the junction you are looking for. A 1/4" 4-way junction will likely melt over time.
The heavy gauge wires that come together under the left rear seat should be terminated with 3/8" (9.5mm) terminals to handle the higher amps that flow over those thicker gauge wires. These wires need a special terminal connector to match the larger terminal sizes on the wires. I think this is what you are looking for:
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111937078
This terminal connector is specifically for bringing together the charging system wires.



If you are not interested in using a VW OE/replica part, you may consider a 12v power distribution block like this to bring the wires together.
https://www.parts-express.com/4-8-AWG-Distribution-Block-265-800
Functionally it is the same, but you will need to clip off the terminals at the end of the wires and strip off the insulation to install the wires into the distribution block. This block is also useful if you plan on powering more devices (like a stereo amp) directly from the battery. You can neatly connect them here instead.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: What Is This Wire Splice Block Called? Reply with quote

You da man, Ashman! Once again, peerless advice and suggestions! You're absolutely right and you just answered my next question about these connectors in advance (being able to handle the current loads of a charging system)! Applause
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS WIRE SPLICE BLOCK CALLED? Reply with quote

Mr. Mike wrote:
They're referred to as terminal connectors

Going down this road eh?
TDCTDI wrote:
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.


Cheers!
Mike


I see that Goodspeedmotoring has them too. Labeled, insulated tab terminal strip.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: What Is This Wire Splice Block Called? Reply with quote

Hiya Mike...Yes, I am also getting one of those cute window decals that say "Certified VW Money Pit", Lol. I've always been a hoarder of parts in the car and motorcycle context. Although I recently sold my Yamaha, Kawasaki and Honda motorcycles, I still have shelves full of spares, boxes of nuts & bolts, etc, etc. Now I'll have to 'rehome' all that stuff, I guess. The VW Beetle spares are already starting to crowd out the MC things, sad to say, but it's a necessary gambit in this age of rising scarcity of certain parts (and prices!).
Cheers, Windisch
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