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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3553 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:39 am Post subject: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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Is there any place we can check the chassis number for Brazilian and NIgerian models to confirm the year? _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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BMFBMF Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2020 Posts: 551 Location: Swtzerland
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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For what its worth, I know the actual manufacture date of my south african made beetles engine and chassis and that seems to follow very closely the numbers shown on this page.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php
it would appear to me (from this one example 😜) that VW somehow coordonated the numbers in different countries. _________________ -----Slava Ukraini-----
1971 Stock South African Beetle 1300 : My mom's european "Thin Chick" spec. Completely stock with torsion bar front, swingaxle rear, smooth hubs, single MC, 40 mm shoes, 31PICT3 carb and 5 bolt drums all round, currently Running a 1976 SF:AS engine with the original SF:AD engine overhauled in a box, waiting to go back in one day. |
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 6041 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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That would be a relatively easy feat if the Brazilian and Nigerian cars were actually assembled from CKD (complete knocked-down) kits rather than from scratch.
A lot of countries had high import tariffs on complete fully assembled cars and trucks but manufacturers could get around that by shipping in a CKD kit that included everything needed to assemble the car and have it assembled locally.
I don't know however if that was the situation with Brazil and Nigeria. Brazil may have started that way but eventually VW was doing full assembly from scratch there. Nigeria I would think would be much more likely to be assembling CKD kits.
If that were the case, then the floorpans and engines would have been manufactured in Germany and so one would expect the numbering system to conform with the German numbering system. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
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BMFBMF Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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I would suspect the opposite, the chassis and engine numbers would have been applied at the factory and then would 100% be the same as the numbers ranges versus dates that we see form the factory. But I'm just guessing. _________________ -----Slava Ukraini-----
1971 Stock South African Beetle 1300 : My mom's european "Thin Chick" spec. Completely stock with torsion bar front, swingaxle rear, smooth hubs, single MC, 40 mm shoes, 31PICT3 carb and 5 bolt drums all round, currently Running a 1976 SF:AS engine with the original SF:AD engine overhauled in a box, waiting to go back in one day. |
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bnam Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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Nigerian car chassis number is NS535962. Engine is BH931674. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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BMFBMF Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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Interestign, not even a 111 in front of the chassis number? _________________ -----Slava Ukraini-----
1971 Stock South African Beetle 1300 : My mom's european "Thin Chick" spec. Completely stock with torsion bar front, swingaxle rear, smooth hubs, single MC, 40 mm shoes, 31PICT3 carb and 5 bolt drums all round, currently Running a 1976 SF:AS engine with the original SF:AD engine overhauled in a box, waiting to go back in one day. |
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3553 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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| BMFBMF wrote: |
| Interestign, not even a 111 in front of the chassis number? |
I've asked my friend to check the tunnel. These are the numbers on the documents. But they are not always correct. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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1966 Fiat 1500 Cabrio (with 1600 Twin cam)
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Maddel Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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Etzold Vol IV...
Some info here but unfortunately no chassis numbers.
All German too, may be someone can jump in for a translation.
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3553 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:22 am Post subject: Re: Brazilian and Nigerian VW chassis numbers listing |
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| bnam wrote: |
| BMFBMF wrote: |
| Interestign, not even a 111 in front of the chassis number? |
I've asked my friend to check the tunnel. These are the numbers on the documents. But they are not always correct. |
Checked stamping. Original stamping. No preceding 11 or 111
@Maddel. Thanks for that info. This confirms that 1500s were produced for Nigeria even after Brazil stopped using them in 75. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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1965 Karmann Ghia Coupe - under restoration
1966 Fiat 1500 Cabrio (with 1600 Twin cam)
1952 Citroen TA 11BL |
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