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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2025 10:39 am    Post subject: Front Caliper Identification '84 Vanagon Reply with quote

Even though there seem to be a ton of pictures of both ATE and Girling calipers out on the interweb, I still can't seem to figure out which I have.

I guess they look like ATE but someone else just told me he thought they were Girling as I was about to order new ones. Can't seem to find a thread here that helps me either.

Can anyone tell from these photos?

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2025 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Front Caliper Identification '84 Vanagon Reply with quote

ATE

You can see the outline of the ATE logo
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2025 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Front Caliper Identification '84 Vanagon Reply with quote

My gut was right then. I'm glad at least ONE of us can see the outline of that logo! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2025 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Caliper Identification '84 Vanagon Reply with quote

as a good reference...

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621277

see that retangular dimple on the ATE...
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2025 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Caliper Identification '84 Vanagon Reply with quote

If you're buying new ones, it doesn't matter, it's just a question of fixed calipers vs floating calipers.

ATE and Girling produced both styles for the Vanagon.

Just be careful to not buy Bay Window bus calipers sold for the Vanagon, they're wrong as these have the inlet port on the back of the piston.

Also some barely fit even under the stock 14" steel wheel, I had the case recently on a caliper from CIP1.com, I was pissed, was catching on the wheel welds a bit.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2025 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Caliper Identification '84 Vanagon Reply with quote

My '84 West (March '84 manufacture date) came with the earlier bus ATE calipers, with the port in the center behind the piston. Can't tell from these pics if this '84 has the bus calipers or the later style. I believe you would need to replace the hard line from hose to caliper if you replaced the early calipers with the later style. So you should confirm where the hard pipe attaches to the caliper before ordering new ones. When you look up calipers for an '84, most places list only the later style. JBugs is one of the few places I've found that sells the center-port caliper. They list them as fitting 1973-79 Bus and 1980-85 Vanagon.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2025 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Caliper Identification '84 Vanagon Reply with quote

zululep wrote:
My '84 West (March '84 manufacture date) came with the earlier bus ATE calipers, with the port in the center behind the piston. Can't tell from these pics if this '84 has the bus calipers or the later style. I believe you would need to replace the hard line from hose to caliper if you replaced the early calipers with the later style. So you should confirm where the hard pipe attaches to the caliper before ordering new ones. When you look up calipers for an '84, most places list only the later style. JBugs is one of the few places I've found that sells the center-port caliper. They list them as fitting 1973-79 Bus and 1980-85 Vanagon.


That's what I'm saying, this is wrong.

Any van with these center port calipers has been retrofitted, that's not from the factory, likely when the Vanagon calipers where NLA new not that long ago, but there were plenty BW bus calipers still, likely bc of the Brazilian production.
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