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VWGlassee
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 Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:06 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| scottyrocks wrote: |
This car is incredibly beautiful.
I especially love the wheel transformation.
Prior to seeing this I did not know why I did like not the two color wheels on stock '63s such as mine, but now I know why.
At some point during production, the inner and outer colors were reversed. Body color on yours is outside with the cream color on the inside. For my year, the body color is on the inside with the cream on the outside.
I much prefer the cream inners. |
I share your opinion on the cream inners. It looks much better like that  |
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:08 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| difrangia wrote: |
That is a beautiful vintage VW and some very nice preservation work. Very inspiring for me as coral is my favorite color for this era. For the last year or so I've been considering letting the 57 Deluxe that I've had stashed in the barn (original coral red car) for 35 years go to an new caretaker. Seeing this car kinda puts a different spin on my thinking. Since acquiring this car, I've never considered a different color than the original coral in the event that I pulled it out and and started work on it. It's almost a virtual zero rust car per my original evaluation. I've been enjoying the heck out of the 63/64 rag-top 117 this Summer.
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Thanks! If you can you should keep the 57. How far are you on the project? Is there a topic so I can follow the progress? |
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Rome
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:30 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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Very nice work so far!
Will you try to relocate the taillamps further down to the correct height? They are now also unfortunately at a mismatched height with the left one being slightly higher than the right one, and both appear to be slightly too far outboard. You can see the deviations if you use the outward kink of the fenders as reference point, then draw a horizontal line through the kinks*.
For comparison, here are the factory-correct locations on a '60 (Stock Steve gallery) taken at a similar view angle to your car. A '60 would have the taillamps in the same position and height as on your car.
You might be able to move the housings down and inward closer to where they should be, with the housings still covering up the original holes. That would save you from closing up the original exposed holes and painting them or the entire fenders.
*Here's the horizontal reference line shown on a US-spec '67. The two kinks did not change position on the body. The taillamps are of course at exactly the same height. |
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:10 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| Rome wrote: |
Very nice work so far!
Will you try to relocate the taillamps further down to the correct height? They are now also unfortunately at a mismatched height with the left one being slightly higher than the right one, and both appear to be slightly too far outboard. You can see the deviations if you use the outward kink of the fenders as reference point, then draw a horizontal line through the kinks*.
For comparison, here are the factory-correct locations on a '60 (Stock Steve gallery) taken at a similar view angle to your car. A '60 would have the taillamps in the same position and height as on your car.
You might be able to move the housings down and inward closer to where they should be, with the housings still covering up the original holes. That would save you from closing up the original exposed holes and painting them or the entire fenders.
*Here's the horizontal reference line shown on a US-spec '67. The two kinks did not change position on the body. The taillamps are of course at exactly the same height. |
Thanks!
Yes, refitting the lights on the correct height is on my to do list  |
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:14 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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I bought a original red interior for the oval. In the future I would like to redo the interior in the original fabric but for now this will do 
it sure looks better than the all in black interior 
Yannick |
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EverettB 
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difrangia
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| Again, such a beautiful survivor and a 'Time Machine'. |
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:03 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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Small update
The oldspeed inspired engine has started for the first time today. I’ll post pictures soon
Can’t wait to get this thing finally on the road
Yannick |
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Major Woody
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:39 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| I love this car so much! Everything you have done is just great. Any info on the brown wheel paint code? Thank you! |
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stale air
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| Rome wrote: |
Very nice work so far!
Will you try to relocate the taillamps further down to the correct height? They are now also unfortunately at a mismatched height with the left one being slightly higher than the right one, and both appear to be slightly too far outboard. You can see the deviations if you use the outward kink of the fenders as reference point, then draw a horizontal line through the kinks*.
For comparison, here are the factory-correct locations on a '60 (Stock Steve gallery) taken at a similar view angle to your car. A '60 would have the taillamps in the same position and height as on your car.
You might be able to move the housings down and inward closer to where they should be, with the housings still covering up the original holes. That would save you from closing up the original exposed holes and painting them or the entire fenders.
*Here's the horizontal reference line shown on a US-spec '67. The two kinks did not change position on the body. The taillamps are of course at exactly the same height. |
| Pharquarx wrote: |
Couldn't sleep, here we go. Reference the diagram above provided by Jim Henderson. These measurements I took off of my fenders were done with a tailor's tape and verified on a tracing, so they are actual dimensions, along the, and accounting for, the curve of the fender.
Blue Line dimension from the lower corner of the fender to the center of the large taillight hole = 15"
Blue Line dimension from the upper corner to the center of the large taillight hole = 6 3/4"
The large taillight hole is 1/2" diameter
Red line dimension from the lower corner of the fender to the center of the overrider hole = 7 3/8"
Red line dimension from the upper corner on the fender to the center of the overrider hole = 7"
The Horizontal dimension from the edge of the fender to the center of the overrider hole is 1 1/2"
The overrider hole diameter is 1"
Yellow line dimension from the lower corner of the fender to the center of the upper most tail light hole = 18 1/8"
Yellow line dimension from the upper corner on the fender to the center of the upper most taillight hole = 7 1/4"
The diameter of the upper most tail light hole is 3/8"
The middle tail light hole is located along a line between the lower larger tail light hole (intersection of the blue lines) and the upper most smaller tail light hole (intersection of the yellow lines)
The middle tail light hole (small lower one) is located 5/8" above the lower larger tail light hole (intersection of the blue lines) and 2 7/8 " below the upper most tail light hole (intersection of the yellow lines)
The distance between the center of the lower tail light hole (intersection of the blue lines) and the center of the upper most tail light hole (intersection of the yellow lines) is 3 1/2"
The diameter of the middle taillight hole is also 3/8"
Thanks to John at Sun Motors and especially to Jim Henderson with his markup above. I'm sure that I could have done this in a much more difficult way without their help. |
| hootowls wrote: |
The following diagram is from "Der Motor Test," July 1958, showing the rear view drawing of a European bumper 58 sedan with relative dimensions for the location if the tail light housings. Note that "leer" means "empty" and the units are in millimeters. Thought the drawing might be useful for the ovals and the squares as this is common to both.
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Blue Baron
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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Very nice "uncal-look" job.
It must be unusual to have the North American-spec bullet turn signals in Belgium. I've always liked them.
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:27 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| Blue Baron wrote: |
Very nice "uncal-look" job.
It must be unusual to have the North American-spec bullet turn signals in Belgium. I've always liked them. |
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:34 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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Engine update
I got the engine back which has been converted with a riechert kit, Fram filter and 'okrasa style' oilcooler (at the back of the doghouse).
I adjusted the tinware and painted it.
Not perfect, but good enough
Some crapy phone photos
Better photos will folow when the car is ready. I'm almost there
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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Lovely little car to begin with!! But then
all your innovations and renovations have made it truly stellar.
Full marks!
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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I have these photos of the car just before it was sold and shipped the Europe.
I was wondering if there is a way to get more history via the VIN or licenseplate?
I think that the licenseplate is from California. But shouldn’t it be a black and yellow plate?
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janerick3
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:12 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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The blue plate pictured was issued in 1980 or 81, when California first went to 7-character plates.
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:21 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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Last weekend a friend of mine adjusted the exhaust to a abarth style one.
Another hobby of mine is photography, so I went for a drive and took my camera with me
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:23 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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And then changed the wheels to the 356 style wheels
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scarabee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:44 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| Is that the final look for the wheels, or are you still adding caps? |
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VWGlassee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:08 am Post subject: Re: 1957 Coral red oval from Callook to original/oldspeed |
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| Is that the final look for the wheels, or are you still adding caps? |
The final look is with the original wheels I like this the most.
The 356 wheels are just for fun |
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