CIP Distributor - Any feedback?

[classicbug]

Looking to replace my distributor with one that has vacuum advance.
Does anyone have feedback on this from CIP? I was suprised to learn Wolfsburg doesn't sell distributors.
Thanks for your input.

https://www2.cip1.com/vwc-043-905-205/

VWC-043-905-205 - 043905205 - CIP1 PREMIUM - DISTRIBUTOR - SINGLE VACUUM ADVANCE (SVDA) - COMPLETE AND READY TO INSTALL (O-RING SEAL NOT INCLUDED) - ALL BEETLE STYLE ENGINES - SOLD EACH
Manufacturer: CIP1 FIVE STAR
Product Code: VWC-043-905-205

[glutamodo]

Well, that's Chinese Junk. But it could function. I doubt it's worth 5 stars though.

Not all vacuum advances are created alike.

Exactly what carburetor are you wanting to use this with?
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[Glenn]

Think you get quality for $40?

CIP sells a BOSCH distributor cap for $40.
https://www2.cip1.com/bos-03010/
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[OldSchoolVW's]

Not at the price point you are looking at, but this one is a sure thing. It's the real deal. You will not be disappointed. Worth the investment.

https://www.sparxwerks.com/product/restored-german...cst=custom
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Sparx Werks products are well worth the dollars. It will be like brand nes out fo the box. Buy it once and do not look back.
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[Glenn]

Let's not put the cart before the horse.

What carb and engine specs first....
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[classicbug]

Additional details about my carb and motor. Thanks for the feedback.
I will check out SparxWorx.

[glutamodo]

Well a BOCAR carb should be OK for SVDA, despite it having the vacuum port for idle speed vacuum retard. The deciding factor is the size of the air hole in the throttle butterfly and I've never seen one such that was not the smaller size needed for SVDA.

So....

You could try that distributor, but keep in mind that what they claim is a 5 star rating is more like a 1 star.
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[ashman40]

You have an aftermarket (Bocar) 34Pict-3. That model was designed to work with an SVDA distributor similar to the one in your link. You should be okay. Connect the vacuum canister on the distributor to the left side vacuum advance port on the carb.

Since you are posting into the 67-earlier forum I was worried you had a 30Pict carb (or earlier) which generally were meant to work with SVA distributors (large diameter vacuum canisters that work off of much lower vacuum signals).
Mixing and matching carb/distributors never works well. You want to pick a distributor that works with your carb... or pick a carb that works with your distributor. Your pairing should work fine... presuming all the components are working as intended.

Once you get the distributor installed, confirm the max mechanical advance does not take you into detonation. Start by adjusting your points (0.016" gap or 47deg dwell +/-3deg). With the vacuum hose disconnected and plugged, rev the engine up until the timing marks under a strobe timing light stop advancing (stop moving CCW). Confirm the mechanical advance hasn't taken you above around 28~32BTDC total (safe upper limit). This is a measure of the mechanical advance only; which is why you disconnect the vacuum hose for this test. If the distributor is over advancing, loosen the hold down clamp and rotate the distributor body until the max timing is in the 28~32BTDC range. You should start on the lower end of that range and work your way up. Some engines may start to experience detonation under load even at 32BTDC.
Once you have the max timing set, let the rpms drop to idle and note the idle timing. You can use this idle timing for future tune ups with that distributor.


One last note: before you remove the old distributor to add the new one... manually rotate the crank pulley until the rotor is pointing to the #1 plug wire post on the distributor cap and the TDC/timing marks line up with the case split. Your engine (cam+crank) is now ready to spark the #1 spark plug.
When you finish installing the new distributor you will need to place the #1 plug wire into the cap post over the rotor so the new distributor is delivering a spark to the #1 spark plug. If necessary, rotate the body of the distributor until the #1 notch lines up with the tip of the rotor before you install the plug wires into the cap. You can use the notch as a reference for where #1 plug wire goes in future tune-ups.
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[Glenn]

[2type2]

My experience with it was that it was necessary to disassemble the dist and after several attempts I was able to significantly adjust the weightsso that the advance curve was more acceptable. It was never even close out of the box, would allow 40 degrees, iirc..
Like everyone says if u get a rebuild from Bill at Sparkswerks it will be better than new.
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[Glenn]

You can't adjust out the timing scatter, bad bushings and soft metal used for the mainshaft and other parts.
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[classicbug]

Super-Response. Thanks, mate! Will keep you posted on the project.

[classicbug]

Glenn, thanks for the detailed response. Much appreciated! I'll provide an update on my progress.

[classicbug]

WD15, thanks for the guidance! Much appreciated.

[heimlich]

A 034 pairs nicely with that carburetor. Here is the one I offer. It comes with a genuine Bosch vacuum canister. You can identify the NOS canisters by the Bosch stamp on them and the curved nipple.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2181010

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[bandi]

They're absolute crap. Save your money.
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[Cerot]

I bought this same distributor against my better judgement and put it on a friends kit car. Ran fine. 5 days later they called me and said it was running like crap, couldn't pull away from stop signs and took forever to accelerate. Turns out the diaphragm in the Vac Advance had failed in less than a week. CIP made me smash it to pieces before giving me a refund, so enjoy these pictures of this distributor in its preferred state of existence: scrap.

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