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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:38 pm    Post subject: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

I grabbed the photo below from the Vanagon Owner's Group fb site. I love the stripes and they're the first that inspire me to add stripes to my van (although multi-colored stripes in the Vanagons belt line are interesting too).

My van is flash silver and I'm thinking of three shades of grey, or possibly three tints/shades of a color for some pop.

Questions:
- Where would I go to have such stripes made and installed? A sign maker with a vinyl cutter? Some other type of shop?
- Does anyone here have experience doing this or working with a pro? Do you have any suggestions?
- Does anyone have a recommendation for a shop in Seattle?
- Any other suggestions?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

Thats a super flattering view of that stripe package but what does it look like straight from the side? I used to help choose factory strip kits on Tacoma trucks once in a while. We always looked from a few angles.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

^^^

The creppy Vanagon stalker (me Shocked ) has returned from fb with this photo...

It looks like the stripe passes through the utility boxes nicely instead of being off-center.

Also the horizontal stripe is about 1/3 the width of the vertical stripes. Gotta use the Golden Ratio to design these stripes.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

I’m not Doug but I think those stripes look awesome. They accentuate the vans unique profile. That’s how stripes work, they draw your eyes so you want them to highlight strengths. Because our vans have great lines to begin with, I think stripes look great on them most of the time.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

There is a business on Etsy called "Vanagon Dwellers" that does custom stripes, etc, I just noticed the other day in the PNW. Ordered a few of their stickers, one that looks exactly like our Westfalia too, which is very cool. I haven't seen much of their striping work, but it maybe worth a contact. Idea
I saw that green van on FB, he just bought it recently I think, a pretty neat 80's survivor combo for sure!

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5402710 A very neat old thread on the samba here.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

Agree - looks pretty good actually. Someone a year or two ago did a grey n red van with a simple mountain shape that I also liked. But this one is nice and you can choose colors too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

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I’m not Doug but I think those stripes look awesome. They accentuate the vans unique profile. That’s how stripes work, they draw your eyes so you want them to highlight strengths. Because our vans have great lines to begin with, I think stripes look great on them most of the time.


I'm not doug either and I think it looks great, BUT, it might just be my 70s throwback mentality.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

Nope, not Doug either, but those stripes look a little too seventyslicious for me.

Not being one to be critical without offering an alternative, here's what I've got.

After seeing the small mountain decals on TigerJoe's & Syncro Jael's hightops, I've been playing with these more full length mountain decal concepts.

The outline is loosely based (left to right) on the Colorado Front Range Indian Peaks with Longs+Meeker Peaks as the big ones to the far right.

To apply, I'd either have two mirror decals made or, if I was feeling frugal, I'd tape out the body colored elements & sky and rattlecan spray the dark mountain shapes black.

I haven't actually concluded that I want to put these on my van, so it's just a design concept I'm kicking around for now.
If anyone wants to use the design on their van, help yourself.

I drew them up in powerpoint since I know it so well, with the bus and the black triangles as the master slide background and the body color elements as shapes I could easily change and move around until they felt right. TheSamba gallery isn't letting me upload the editable source ppts, so if you want them to experiment with, drop me a line.

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Side Panel mountains
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If I wasn't so darn conventional, Salt 'n Peppers is the design I'd really use, though with red, green and orange chilies.
Actually, SnP would be perfect for 10c's van since he's in the middle of chili country.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

Mountains on the pop top I REALLY like.

...and where's the spare?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

Tires are too big to fit in the spare tire carrier.

I'm a fan of the forest/mountains vinyl overlay. I have been kicking around the idea for awhile. Something along these lines. The only question is, get it painted it first and then do graphics. Or do graphics, see how I like it, then remove and get it painted. I think graphics will look silly on the champagne/gold color vs the Toyota Sandy Taupe that I want, but the benefit is that I can do it now. Decisions.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

Hey, those trees are my idea! I've been waiting to repaint my syncro again and then put vinyl trees on it. I had a room mate back in 97 who was a sign guy and he had a vinyl plotter at home. I had put trees like that on my XT 550 gas tank. They looked great. My blue baywindow just wasn't the right fit for them so we put them on his nissan 4x4 truck. I think he is still driving it today down in the PNW.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

For a coupla years I've wanted to do a continuous stripe in the "belt" area around the Van, repeating the Chacoan triangular design in the middle of this pottery sherd:

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Dark brown on tan

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

More Stripes to consider:



Early VW livery from a French Mountain Rallye in the Late 1980’s


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An excellent Tribute from 2012 on custom panel van conversion:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

FWIW: A personal favorite I saved from member "fairweather" elsewhere on Samba...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

The green van reminds me of this:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

shadetreemech wrote:
For a coupla years I've wanted to do a continuous stripe in the "belt" area around the Van, repeating the Chacoan triangular design in the middle of this pottery sherd:

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Dark brown on tan

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That's a cool looking pattern.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

sanchius wrote:
...those stripes look a little too seventyslicious for me.



True, they might be a bit anachronistic on a 1990 van but given that it's a 1980 body style it may be close enough.

The mountains and trees look cool but I may not be au courant enough for them. Very Happy

Does anyone have recommendations or tips on how to have the stickers designed and cut? Is this a sign makers bailiwick or do I go to a body wrap shop (sounds more expensive to me)?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

A little Easter present for those wanting the stripes on the green van...I quick and dirtied some vector files for those that want to take them to a sign shop. With the side/hatch stripes using such a long length of material this will work out much better $$$ wise if people go in and get a bunch cut at once.

Theres 5 illustrator .ai files (backsaved to eight), the 3 "hockey stick" stripes for the door and 2 single stripes - one for the side and one for the hatch (I'm assuming they carry around). Those will need to be cut out in whatever the three colors you go with are. These were all properly scaled to the dimensions diagram and should be cut as is.

I'm also willing to tweak these a bit if anyone thinks I've gotten some lines wrong.

They're on my google drive for now (in a zip), if anyone has space and wants to host...feel free
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These pics are just for reference and show how much extra material I've included so there's a bit of leeway. Hatch Stripes on the bottom.

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Disclaimer - I have not cut these out and tested them on an actual van.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

jimf909 wrote:
Does anyone have recommendations or tips on how to have the stickers designed and cut? Is this a sign makers bailiwick or do I go to a body wrap shop (sounds more expensive to me)?Thanks.


Try for a mom and pop sign shop.

My first job out of college was the graphic designer for a sign shop, we would have charged $125 for the digital artwork and $75 for the vinyl, more for install. Of course that was over a decade ago, who knows what prices are now. I picked up a USCutter vinyl cutter off amazon for $300 a few years ago, works great, came with the software to cut too and some starter vinyl.

https://www.amazon.com/Vinyl-Cutter-USCutter-34in-...amp;sr=8-5

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon Stripes - how-to tips, tricks and shop recommendations Reply with quote

levi wrote:
...and where's the spare?
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Tires are too big to fit in the spare tire carrier.

Nope, they fit with my modified clam shell and some trimming of the inner frame rails.
The spare was in the cabin.
I think that was when I was chasing an overheating problem and needing to get up behind the radiator regularly
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