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lateral Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2012 Posts: 48 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:49 pm Post subject: 411 (1969) Plastic internal Sunvisors and rear vision mirror |
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Hi guys,
The plastic internal sun visors on my 1969 411 are fine without any tears etc but the internal "stuffing" is all dry and broken down and subsequently, whilst they work, I would like to find a better set if possible.
Firstly, are these available for anywhere or am I able to fit some from another model vehicle etc?
My internal rear view plastic covering is also breaking down and I would like to replace it also.
Cheers and thanks for your help
Regards
Greg |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21521 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: 411 (1969) Plastic internal Sunvisors and rear vision mirror |
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Some infor in the am. They are essentially type 3 visors but have slightly different angled mounting ends. You can modify them. Ray |
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lateral Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2012 Posts: 48 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: 411 (1969) Plastic internal Sunvisors and rear vision mirror |
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Hi Ray
I thought they were similar and checked the difference in the arm but decided it wouldn’t work.
Hmmm, I have another look.
Any idea about the rear view mirror?
Cheers
Greg |
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Vanagonsgoslow Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2019 Posts: 83 Location: E Dorado Hills, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:35 am Post subject: Re: 411 (1969) Plastic internal Sunvisors and rear vision mirror |
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Maybe look at a Porsche 914 rear view mirror to see if it would work? |
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lateral Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2012 Posts: 48 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: 411 (1969) Plastic internal Sunvisors and rear vision mirror |
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Thanks Ray
I’ll have a look.
Cheers
Greg |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21521 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: 411 (1969) Plastic internal Sunvisors and rear vision mirror |
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lateral wrote: |
Hi Ray
I thought they were similar and checked the difference in the arm but decided it wouldn’t work.
Hmmm, I have another look.
Any idea about the rear view mirror?
Cheers
Greg |
So, the type 3 part # for the rearview mirror 1971-73 is 311 857 507C
https://vwispwest.com/71-73-notchback-fastback-squareback-rear-view-mirror-311857507c/
The 411/412 mirror 411 857 511 A or B. The B is listed for all models as safety mirror.
The typ 3 and 4 are really similar but would have to see the back of the type 3 to see if it mounts the same.
This is how the type 4 mirror mounts:
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/news/rear-view-mirror-857-511-113l-23927a.html
In fact these look really similar. It may be worth asking in the type 1 forum if someone can measure the spades on the back of a type 1 or on the type 3 forum for the same answer.
Here are some pictures of type 4 mirror.
So the actual mounting pad is a little more square than a type 3 or type 1 but the mounting stake looks very similar.
Are you missing yours entirely or are you just looking for a better one. This is one of my spares. The glass has corrosion showing through. I think it could probably be replaced with a little heating of the plastic rim.
I could probably spare this one if you need it. Ray |
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lateral Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2012 Posts: 48 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: 411 (1969) Plastic internal Sunvisors and rear vision mirror |
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Hi Ray
Thanks for looking into this further for me.
Mine is fine apart from the plastic covering being brittle.
I just looking for some easy way to replace if it I can find a new one that can fit.
I’ll have a closer look at the Type 3 mirrors as I think I may have one in my parts stash.
Oh, thanks for your offer as well.
I’ll report back when I have additional information.
Cheers
Greg |
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