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SoquelDude
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:43 am    Post subject: 1990 Westy Fridge Electrical Questions Reply with quote

Hi!

I have 2 questions that I hope folks can give me some help with:

1. I haven't used the Dometic RM182 in the two years I've had the van, so I wanted to try my luck in getting it to work. I first tried starting it up off of the house battery. No luck.

Then I tried starting it up off of 110v AC - success! The fan came on and the fridge was (slowly) starting to get cold. I then switched it over to battery, and it stayed running. I unplugged the 110v line and it still stayed on. I left it on for an hour and it didn't shut off.

I then started the van up and the fridge stopped working and wouldn't start up again until I plugged the 100v line back in and switched to 119v AC.

Any ideas of what the problem could be or where to start looking?


2. While I had the 110v AC power hooked up, I checked out the house receptacle by the circuit breaker. The top outlet was hot, but the bottom one was not.

It could be wiring but more likely that the receptacle is bad. Are there any advantaged/problems if I replace the old receptacle with a GFCI receptacle?

TIA!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: 1990 Westy Electrical Questions Reply with quote

The fan you hear is not supposed to run all the time. It is on a temp switch on the back of the fridge. Ideally it would cycle, but during the day, it can get quite hot behind the fridge especially when it is running.

Its also a very slow process cooling off. You need to basically turn it on and walk away. The 12 volt feature was wired originally so it only worked when the engine is running.

I use our fridge mostly on propane. On 12 volt, its a power hog. If I'm trying to stretch propane, I will switch to 110 if we are camped with power.

Hope that helps some..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: 1990 Westy Electrical Questions Reply with quote

Here's the owners guide on how to operate the fridge: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/87campersupplement/1987_Bus_Camper_Supplement.pdf

And a more technical manual on trouble shooting: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/87wes...Manual.pdf

These will give you more information that needed on operation.

There is a relay under the drivers seat that I believe prevents the fridge from running on 12v unless the van engine is on. If someone has altered the stock wiring it could be doing weird things. Check out page 19 of the camper manual linked above.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: 1990 Westy Electrical Questions Reply with quote

Perhaps a better title would be "Electric Westy FRIDGE Question, 1990"
You might pique the interest of more readers who know about the fridge wiring.
Most readers would not even click on a thread called "Electrical Questions"

MarkWard wrote:
Its also a very slow process cooling off. You need to basically turn it on and walk away. The 12 volt feature was wired originally so it only worked when the engine is running.


This is the intended procedure.
You do these sequentially...
in a sequence that maintains the cold.

    Plug it to 110v in at home the day before departure.
    When it's cold, load it.
    When ready to leave, start the engine, unplug it and switch to 12v.
    Whenever the engine is running, and the switch is on 12v, the refrigerator runs.
    And like Mark said.... ONLY when the engine is running.
    Arrive at your campsite, Shut off the engine
    Switch from 12v to propane.


You can have little gaps, between the modes, but if you had an hour between modes, the fridge could warm and then may never get as cold again.

If you had a big LiFePO house battery it's feasible to rewire to run off the house battery while the engine is off.
I'm curious how many amps that fridge draws on 12v.
I think the circuit has a 16a fuse.
If it takes 10amps(?) that would be a LOT of power.
FYI a 100AH LifePo battery could run it for ~10 hours.

3-way was "the bomb"!

But now you can have a Truckfridge and a 100Ah LifePO and it gets pretty simple.
I know a guy with a Truckfridge TF-65, 100Ah LifePO, and 100w solar panel.
He parks his van in the open, and leaves his Truckfridge on full-time.
I can't remember if he said "all Summer" or "all year" or "continuous for four years"
This is in Seattle.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: 1990 Westy Electrical Questions Reply with quote

Don't hold me to this, but my BMS showed 9amps drawing with just the fridge on 12 volt.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 1990 Westy Electrical Questions Reply with quote

SoquelDude wrote:
Then I tried starting it up off of 110v AC ....


just to be pedantic, the national power grid hasn't been 110v for oh, about 50 years!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 1990 Westy Fridge Electrical Questions Reply with quote

I never run my 182b on DC. Start it on AC the night before. Next day, load up the fridge and then switch it over to propane and it remains on gas for the entire trip. Never wanted to have to remember to switch from DC to gas back to DC again.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1990 Westy Electrical Questions Reply with quote

Sodo wrote:

This is the intended procedure.
You do these sequentially...
in a sequence that maintains the cold.




This is the way.

When I used the three way fridge i also pulled it and rebuilt the tinder box. It was much easier to light and keep lit after that. I could run it while driving!
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