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EvanAskins Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2024 Posts: 9 Location: FL
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:08 am Post subject: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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Hey ya'll!
About a year ago, I purchased a '71 Super Beetle as an engagment gift to my now wife.
I was never a fan of classic VW, but my wife was so in love with them that I knew it'd make a great gift. (She even has a tatoo of one.)
But once I got it home, I realised that I was in for a wild ride...I'm not new to working on cars, as I've replaced water pumps, alternators, brakes, etc on newer cars, but I definetely have never done the work that I'm about to do.
As I've been working on it, (it sat for about a year before we bought a house and moved it to the garage) I quickly fell in love with how simple everything is.
That being said, there is a lot of body work that needs to be done, and I have never even touched a welder before. I have a lot to learn, but I am super excited to one day take my wife to some of the local VW meets in the Tampa Bay area.
I'm very excited for the work ahead! Expect quite a few newbie questions from me in the near future.
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12525
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:46 am Post subject: Re: New Member / VW Newbie |
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I hate rust and usually it’s not localized. I would immediately look the entire car over for rust and determine if it makes sense to try and repair. Anything can be fixed but you gotta balance the time, potentially hundreds of hours with cost parts supplies and labor. It doesn’t have to make economic sense as there are many cars running around that owners have gone overboard restoring to the point they have spent 25k for a car that is worth 8 to 10k on a good day. Who knows when but super beetles might be worth serious coin some day if you stay around a few years. |
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EvanAskins Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2024 Posts: 9 Location: FL
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:30 am Post subject: Re: New Member / VW Newbie |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
I hate rust and usually it’s not localized. I would immediately look the entire car over for rust and determine if it makes sense to try and repair. Anything can be fixed but you gotta balance the time, potentially hundreds of hours with cost parts supplies and labor. It doesn’t have to make economic sense as there are many cars running around that owners have gone overboard restoring to the point they have spent 25k for a car that is worth 8 to 10k on a good day. Who knows when but super beetles might be worth serious coin some day if you stay around a few years. |
The floor pans definitely need to be replaced, and the heater channels need to go. The A and B pillars look good, and the chasis doesn't look bad either. From what I've seen, heater channels and floor pans are a super common replacment, so in my mind it doesn't make much sense to buy a donor car that will most likely have the same issue...not too sure though! |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 13691 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:19 am Post subject: Re: New Member / VW Newbie |
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Welcome! That is the same year and color my SB was! If that is the worst rust on that car then it is pretty cherry for it's age. Absolutely it is worth fixing up!
Keep us posted please. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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EvanAskins Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2024 Posts: 9 Location: FL
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: New Member / VW Newbie |
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oprn wrote: |
Welcome! That is the same year and color my SB was! If that is the worst rust on that car then it is pretty cherry for it's age. Absolutely it is worth fixing up!
Keep us posted please. |
I'm not too sure about the formalities, but should I just start a new thread in the Super Beetle section and continiously post updates to that thread? |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 10220 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: New Member / VW Newbie |
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EvanAskins wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Welcome! That is the same year and color my SB was! If that is the worst rust on that car then it is pretty cherry for it's age. Absolutely it is worth fixing up!
Keep us posted please. |
I'm not too sure about the formalities, but should I just start a new thread in the Super Beetle section and continiously post updates to that thread? |
Evan, You can continue to post in this forum, if you wish.
But posting in the 68 and up forum will garner better and more knowledgeable answers, when you have a question about your car. Plus, folks there will likely see more of your car than in the General / Chat forum. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23014 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:28 am Post subject: Re: New Member / VW Newbie |
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Ask a mod to bump your thread over to super Beetlr world
And a spouse who likes any VW as an engagement gift is awesome … _________________ .ssS! |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 70532 Location: Phoenix 602
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omegared Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 163
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:26 am Post subject: Re: New Member / VW Newbie |
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If you're looking for VW shows or swap meets in the Tampa Bay area there is a pretty decent one in Dade City called The Bug Jam. I'm not sure what time of year it is but I'm sure the internet does. _________________ Volkswagens don't like trees, make all necessary efforts to keep your VW from meeting one.
1966 Bus
1976 Bus
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EvanAskins Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2024 Posts: 9 Location: FL
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:11 am Post subject: Re: New Member / VW Newbie |
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So I got the engine out an onto a stand! The harbor freight stand only let me attached the top two mounts, so I wont be able to split the case until I get a hold of a VW adaptor.
That being said, I found out that this engine isn't the original! It's an AJ model that was originally FI. (A previous owner did a carb conversion.) My question is, whats with the extra port on the top of the intake manifold? I can't find anything like it, and I'm considering just buying a new dual port intake manifold...any suggestions?
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omegared Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 163
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:33 am Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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"My question is, whats with the extra port on the top of the intake manifold?"
Had one of these manifolds on a '76 bus. If I remember correctly it is a vacuum line port that runs to the vacuum assist brakes. If not using vacuum assist brakes it can jus be plugged. _________________ Volkswagens don't like trees, make all necessary efforts to keep your VW from meeting one.
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12525
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:46 am Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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Exhaust gas recirculation. It would have had a small pipe going to muffler. The tube on the left side was vacuum port for distributor. Autostik cars had a huge vacuum port in addition to that. |
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tpinthepack Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2004 Posts: 828 Location: clearwater,florida
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:54 am Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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Small world, I recognize the apartment building, my son used to live there off US 19 in Clearwater. There is plenty of VW enthusiasts in this area, good luck.
Tony _________________ TP in the Pack (I am a cyclist)
1968 Manx N.O.S. w/ Barrett Chassis
1960 Single Cab 1914 w/ 40 DLRA's
1990 Vanagon DOKA
1972 Super Beetle
1979 Super Beetle Convertible
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EvanAskins Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2024 Posts: 9 Location: FL
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:17 am Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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Got the body off the pan. I'm starting to wonder how I'm going to store all these pieces I'm removing before the rebuild! |
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T1SuperNoob Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2024 Posts: 34 Location: Puerto Rico & FL
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:11 am Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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EvanAskins wrote: |
Got the body off the pan. I'm starting to wonder how I'm going to store all these pieces I'm removing before the rebuild! |
Awesome! Man I wish the body on my restoration project was that good. I'm in for a world of hurt compared to that! |
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agramer1966 Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2010 Posts: 166 Location: Northern Poland
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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EvanAskins wrote: |
Got the body off the pan. I'm starting to wonder how I'm going to store all these pieces I'm removing before the rebuild! |
I wish i have restoration as "complicated" as yours.
Label everything into small bags and take a lot of pictures as you go along. Good luck Sir👍. _________________ 1966 VW1300
1973 VW1302
1979 924
1984 924
Bunch of old Jap motorbikes
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EvanAskins Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2024 Posts: 9 Location: FL
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:28 am Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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Getting the chassis completely torn apart. Removing all the "fixes" the last owner did has been helpful in showing me what NOT to do (They welded the floor pans in with about 5 giant welds that were largely not doing anything.)
...Does anyone have a good machine shop in the tampa bay area that will work on these engines? I've called 10+ shops and no one will touch my engine with a ten foot pole. I'm not expecting much work needs to be done, but it would be nice to have a shop in my pocket just in case. |
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OldSchoolVW's Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1027 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:25 am Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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These folks will probably be able to help or point you to where you can get the needed work done:
https://www.facebook.com/olsensvw/ _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
"But I also have to say, for the umpty-umpth time, that life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all." William Goldman
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
'70 Beetle Sedan
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Chinaclipper Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2019 Posts: 721 Location: Somewhere in the great Midwest
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 10:21 am Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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EvanAskins wrote: |
Getting the chassis completely torn apart. Removing all the "fixes" the last owner did has been helpful in showing me what NOT to do (They welded the floor pans in with about 5 giant welds that were largely not doing anything.)
...Does anyone have a good machine shop in the tampa bay area that will work on these engines? I've called 10+ shops and no one will touch my engine with a ten foot pole. I'm not expecting much work needs to be done, but it would be nice to have a shop in my pocket just in case. |
Dude! Come on!!
If you've gotten THIS far, you can take care of the engine! What'ddya got to loose? You can do it!! you can learn something, have fun, save money! What a concept!!
Good luck! _________________ China Clippers Official 1971 Super Beetle Project!
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728089&highlight= |
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EvanAskins Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2024 Posts: 9 Location: FL
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: 1971 Super Beetle - Total Newbie Restoration |
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Chinaclipper wrote: |
Dude! Come on!!
If you've gotten THIS far, you can take care of the engine! What'ddya got to loose? You can do it!! you can learn something, have fun, save money! What a concept!!
Good luck! |
Lol, I appreciate the attitude! I was mainly asking because if I need machine work done, I def don't have the capability. I might be over thinking it, hopefully the engine just needs a basic rebuild and nothing rebored, turned, or machined. |
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