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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:49 pm    Post subject: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

Hi there y'all, I've been having some troubles with my dual weber 34 ICTs. It idles pretty smooth but as soon as you accelerate it kinda stumbles and it's really slow getting up to rpm, I've set timing and synced both carbs and have the linkage adjusted pretty evenly, I'm just about out of ideas.

The engine in question is a 1200 with the Big bore kit with dual single Weber 34 ICTs and it has a 019 distributor set at 30° total advanced
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

Check spark plugs , spark plug gaps,fuel filter, dirty air filters,jets, wrong jets, dirty carbs ,carb fuel level, check for vacuum leaks check the carb accelerator pumps....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

I'm assuming by 1200 you're referring to a 40hp, of which I am not as familair with, but I'll offer a couple other items to consider-

-On my 36hp engine I found that the 010 performs MUCH better than the 019. The advance curve for an 019 comes on very slowly by comparison. I don't know how accurate the graph below is but there are lots out on the internet that are similar. Part of the issue may be dual carbs introducing a larger volume of fuel/air off idle than the 019 timing can keep up with.

-I'm again assuming the 40hp has similar characteristics to the 36hp, which is a pretty inefficient combustion chamber design. The dual carb 36hp engines seem to like a lot of timing. There are very reputable vintage speed engine builders who have confirmed as much on a dyno (see here and here). 30 degrees might not be enough. I can not stress this part enough though - DO NOT attempt to advance your timing without using an air/fuel meter to make sure you're not too lean. I have the timing set on my 36hp engine at 37 degrees max advance. The carbs are jetted for it, with an AFR between 11.5-12.5 at wide open throttle. I can drive it all day in the hot and humid south in peak summer, oil temps stay below 200*, and it gets almost 31 mpg on road trips...so don't be scared of adding timing, provided the engine is properly jetted for it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

Are you running a fuel pressure regulator? I run a set of 34's and found them to be very susceptible to over fueling if the pressure is above about 3psi. VW fuel pumps can put out 3X this number.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

Did you try messing with the advance (turning the distributor) to see if the curve needs to be looked at?

The 019 doesn't need to be at 30 all in. You have some wiggle room. Many 019's only advance 16 degrees total and might not be enough for you.

Where in the RPM range are you having issues?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

I'm truthfully have issues at all rpm ranges, but most of all probably around 2,800-3,000 rpm it's got absolutely no power, the over fueling is definitely something I forgot to consider, the engine used to run like an absolute beast with the current set up, snappy throttle and plenty of power, the old fuel pump went and I replaced it with another one.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

I would go through and do a tuneup and check everything such as valves, cap, rotor, condenser, wires, and spark plugs. Make sure the timing is set correctly. Check the advance at 1,000, 2,000, and 2500 RPM.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

heimlich wrote:
I would go through and do a tuneup and check everything such as valves, cap, rotor, condenser, wires, and spark plugs. Make sure the timing is set correctly. Check the advance at 1,000, 2,000, and 2500 RPM.


If, when engine is mechanical OK, valve clearence and ignition system, since when you have that problem and how old is the fuel?
Fuel smells normal, not mixed with Diesel?
Firing order OK?
Fuel pressure?
Back to old fuel pump, why replaced?
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Sorry for stupid questions and comments.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

Hi I'm looking at doing the same mods as you ,do you think it's your carbs read this article on setting up weber ict carbs on www.wayoutwestie.com he show the jet sizes needed and fuel regulator etc ! Hope this helps?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual carbs sluggish acceleration Reply with quote

wagen19 wrote:
heimlich wrote:
I would go through and do a tuneup and check everything such as valves, cap, rotor, condenser, wires, and spark plugs. Make sure the timing is set correctly. Check the advance at 1,000, 2,000, and 2500 RPM.


If, when engine is mechanical OK, valve clearence and ignition system, since when you have that problem and how old is the fuel?
Fuel smells normal, not mixed with Diesel?
Firing order OK?
Fuel pressure?
Back to old fuel pump, why replaced?
Never change a winning team!


Sorry for stupid questions and comments.


The engine is mechanically sound, and the fuel is only a couple of weeks old, it's 93 octane with no ethanol, and the fuel pump was replaced because the main diaphragm had torn and it dumped fuel into the engine, fortunately we caught it before we fired the engine up, but one thing I neglected to do with the new fuel pump is to see how much pressure it's putting out, I really do need to check that
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