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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2025 5:14 am    Post subject: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

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Seems solid apart from the lip/flange as rusted away from both the sill and the inner strengthener, trying to figure out if repairing rather than spending £56 on the two replacement panels makes sense in terms of saving time.

The bottom of the rocker seems solid, from where I've had a quick investigate...
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2025 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

I would remove the outer rocker at the spot welds and make your decision on what you find. You can clean and prep the inner surfaces of the rockers because if the lip is rusted I can guarantee you at least have surface rust starting. Plus that flange will be easier to fix on a table.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2025 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

Makes sense - so it's just attached along the bottom seam, right?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2025 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

It’s going to be a bit more complicated than that. It’s got an inner structure that’s attached to the inner rocker as well check out classic steel body’s website and check out the picture of the cargo door rocker and you’ll get the idea.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2025 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

Yeah, I see it's got the inner strengthener, too. I guess the question is, is it going to be easier to remove both of them if I'm not being precious about keeping them intact...
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2025 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

I’ve never removed one intact before. I live in the rust belt of America and if there is anything left I usually just cut it out in chunks. But I have put several of them in.

Your other option is fix the upper flange and before you weld it hose the insides down with something like FluidFilm. Then weld the top flange back on. It won’t last forever but maybe it will buy you a few years.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

Ah, yeah, that pretty much answers my question I reckon!

I might attempt to remove the rocker and inner strengthener intact as a training exercise, we shall see!
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

Worst case scenario is you know how the new one will go on. Post your progress.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Cargo door sill/rocker - repair or replace? Reply with quote

Soooo, after drilling out a load of spotwelds with various degrees of success, I think I'm going to cut it out anyway:


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Trying to separate it from the inner rocker has pretty much destroyed the flange:

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So I guess I need to brace the door and chop it all out...
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