Early pop out hinge part; help needed; installation

[panicman]

After years of wanting them and looking at them, I bit on a set of original early pop outs for my 1960 bug.

One of the hinges is missing 2 parts, what I would instinctively call a tension bushing, and the other is a white plastic spacer:

As you can see, the plastic spacer I do have is broken and could stand to be replaced. I scoured the classifieds for hinge parts and found none of these.

Can anyone tell me the names of these parts for a better search, or even better, does someone know where I can buy these?

I can imagine I will have to make these on my own to match as closely as possible, but I'd prefer the genuine parts. Thanks!

[56Cabrio]

Where does it go on the hinges ?
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[my3bugs]

as i recall it goes in the hinge . when you tighten the knob it compresses to that cone to hold it open or closed .

i remember shipping some pop outs so i took half of the hinge off so as not to break the glass , and packaged that cone , knob and special screw real good ..... buy a used latch n rob it ?

[panicman]

[panicman]

Bingo my3bugs! I have considered doing that, also I wonder if these internal parts stay the same for the later pop out hinges that are more plentiful. I also wonder if the aftermarket hinges contain the "cone" or if the manufacturers have changed to a different/cheaper option.

[panicman]

If I can't source this part, I am considering a graduated stack of washers that would fit in there, perhaps JB welded together and sanded smooth.

[67rustavenger]

[panicman]

Thank you 67- great reminder. I have been trained and conditioned to go to the internet of things first.... not proud!

[panicman]

I got the pop outs in pretty good shape, but the old seals were cracked and brittle. Also, no pitting of the frames, and the hinge chrome is in decent enough shape, so with some disassembly, then cleaning and polishing them, I think they look good.
Here they are with most hardware removed and the old seals cut out.

I polished each piece of chrome in a bench grinder with a buffing wheel. The knobs I cleaned and soaked in detergent and then hand polished with rubbing compound, then I waxed everything.

Getting ready to install the new seals.

I first carefully buffed the frames on the wheel, and got them remarkably clean and bright.

The seals went on pretty easily with a plastic trim tool. I reassembled everything, and am happy with how they turned out.

I still plan to find that correct part for the hinge tensioner, but that can be done anytime.

Now it's time for me to gather my guts and install these. The car interior still looks like the day I installed the cloth headliner and windows, so I'm not eager to start kicking glass out and cutting the fabric.

But it must be done!

[Teeroy]

Search for pop out latch parts not hinge, might have better luck if there is anything out available.
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[panicman]

Thanks Teeroy! Now that you say that, it dawns on me that I see 'latches' used more than 'hinges'.

[DAWGNME]

I have to say Great work! love the way the parts turned out.

Were the old seals hard to remove and did you polish the frames also? I am trying to follow along with you to get mine done.
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[panicman]

Thanks!

No, the old brittle seals fortunately came out easily and cleanly. I carefully made a slice along one side of the "spine" of the seal, maybe 4 inches long and tried pulling, and out it came, and then I just pulled it out of the joint all the way around.

I did clean the channel with lacquer thinner and paper towels. Then I slowly worked the frame across a polishing wheel on my bench grinder. I started with fine polish, and worked up to coarse. I was able to easily remove all oxidation and almost all the scratches.

I fear this has been the easy part. Now I need to work up the cajones to actually start drilling holes in the car.

[Bub]

I'd love to see any method you come up with for locating the rear-latch part that screws to the body. That's a horrible thing when you have a fresh headliner...even with no headliner I don't like it.
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[panicman]

That's the part that is going to wreck my sleep. I am sooo not eager for that part.

[mukluk]

I wonder if a test tube rubber stopper could be adapted to replace the missing latch bushing.

You're almost there...

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[DAWGNME]

[panicman]

Mukluk, thank you for the Tech bulletin AND the rubber stopper idea. I think that might work.

DAWGNME, when I installed my seals, there is no contour to them. They are just straight up and down.

[DAWGNME]

DAWGNME, when I installed my seals, there is no contour to them. They are just straight up and down.

Now those look really nice and straight I have seen ones that have curved edges. (there's even no bacon like they call it) where did you purchase your seals. Great work and very informative!
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[panicman]

They were included with the windows and I think they had been stored with them, boxed for some time, so it's possible they shrank a little. They are WW seals. New pinch welt arrives today, so I may take a stab at these this weekend.