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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:41 pm Post subject: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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I am looking to add a radio on my 1971 double cab, Interested on what options are out there that DO NOT require cutting up the dash or paying up the arse having the radio retrofitted. I looked up in the forums and in YouTube and saw very few options. One being Retrosound, but I saw tons of options, I did see one on YT that has adjustable knobs as to make it narrower and fit on the bus dash without altering it. Anyone have a clue? like always Thanks in advance.
Martin
allwagons _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
Everything sounds good on paper!
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raygreenwood Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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ALLWAGONS wrote: |
I am looking to add a radio on my 1971 double cab, Interested on what options are out there that DO NOT require cutting up the dash or paying up the arse having the radio retrofitted. I looked up in the forums and in YouTube and saw very few options. One being Retrosound, but I saw tons of options, I did see one on YT that has adjustable knobs as to make it narrower and fit on the bus dash without altering it. Anyone have a clue? like always Thanks in advance.
Martin
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Are you looking for a retro "style" radio or just a good one that fits nicely and has good sound?
There are a lot of good single DIN options out there. What are the measurements of the opening? Shop by that and not by vehicle.
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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Yes, Searching is my best friend, But I was asking for some one with the same experience to share, _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
Everything sounds good on paper! |
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SGKent  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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you need to define what you expect from it. Some folks just throw an non-op radio up there for show and then stuff the real stereo in the glove box. It really depends what you want it to do. AM-FM then lots of old radios that are period correct to deal from. But if you want surround sound with blue tooth and CD, AM - FM, USB and aux ports - that's a whole "nother ani-mule". If you answer with I want the most I can get for the least amount of money then you represent 100% of the human population. That answer can mean anything to anyone. _________________ "Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - George Carlin |
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Rag00oll Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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I recently did a retrosound in my 68 westy. It fits perfect in the dash, no cutting at all. Faceplate was kind of a tight fit at first but it looks good. I don’t have any pictures of it.
My 71 westy that i sold I had put in a radio from best buy. It worked great too but obviously didn’t look “period correct”. No cutting needed there either. |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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Any pics? What model retro sound?
Thanks
Martin _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
Everything sounds good on paper! |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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SGKent wrote: |
you need to define what you expect from it. Some folks just throw an non-op radio up there for show and then stuff the real stereo in the glove box. It really depends what you want it to do. AM-FM then lots of old radios that are period correct to deal from. But if you want surround sound with blue tooth and CD, AM - FM, USB and aux ports - that's a whole "nother ani-mule". If you answer with I want the most I can get for the least amount of money then you represent 100% of the human population. That answer can mean anything to anyone. |
I would like something that fits without cutting the dash, am-fm. Aux outputs , even a cassette, no cd. I plan to put an equalizer , amp and small woofer. Since many of you have had bay windows longer than me, I really expected a “ look! Installed this ….”
I am old school and appreciate any and all suggestions. _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
Everything sounds good on paper! |
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Rag00oll Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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Here's a screen capture from a video. I'm out of state at the moment so that's what I got. Sorry about the quality. But like I said no cutting. I had one in my 68 beetle too but this one is 10 years newer. It has bluetooth, aux function, etc. I didn't get the most expensive one, I don't need anything more fancy. I also bought a speaker with it to replace the old speaker mounted under the dash top-plate. It sounds good! Bluetooth works great. Eventually I'll add another set of speakers somewhere else. |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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Thank you! _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
Everything sounds good on paper! |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Radio for a 1971 Doka |
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When I had my type 34, I was limited to the small deck opening and precut holes for the knobs. I ended up using a Ckarion 2 knob radio with horizontal adjustable knobs that really moved left and right. The small cassette deck fit the stock hole like a glove, even the og type 34 faceplate was used with this radio. I ran it with 2 TSX-40 Pioneer speakers on the undersash parcel tray and a small 10” Bazooka woofer behind the rear seat powered by a small amp and equalizer. Coolest little setup ever. I am trying to duplicate this, just with a modern twist. Maybe I asked the wrong question. What radio are you guys running on your buses that don’t require cutting the dash? _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
Everything sounds good on paper! |
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W1K1 Samba Member

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timvw7476 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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just strap a near-modern DIN chassis stereo off-center from the E brake handle & run it with a tiny remote. They seem to come with a tiny remote for most functions. That way you keep the classic dash. But with modern potential. |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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Again....measurements. I am not speaking of cutting the dash.
The closest I am coming to cutting anything is filing square corners where mine are rounded and I have a modern Kenwood.
I think knobs are ideal...along with some digital functions. The cassette deck pretty much limits you to used.
Just a couple of years back there were some new decks that still had cassette.
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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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A couple of minutes with a Dremel and you can open the hole up to take a standard aftermarket unit, I have done them using just a bastard file. |
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timvw7476 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:20 am Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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Wildthings wrote: |
A couple of minutes with a Dremel and you can open the hole up to take a standard aftermarket unit, I have done them using just a bastard file. |
The OP wants to preserve the original dash metal. Hmm. Between the valves, points, non-auto-adjust rear brakes & clutch cable I prefer modern audio in the front hole. And yeah I took a grinder to my dash I love it. Think I'll put a subwoofer package in too. Bob Marley rolls in his grave. : l oh well. |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:20 am Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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Wildthings wrote: |
A couple of minutes with a Dremel and you can open the hole up to take a standard aftermarket unit, I have done them using just a bastard file. |
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This is what I was getting at. There are a lot of stereo out there that will fit into the stock dash holes with no real trimming. Just a little filing. If you are patient no one will be able to tell.
I could assume that your dash opening is pretty much the same as mine because all of our rigs used the same period radios back in the day. However, having installed them in 411,412, type 1 and a 1971 bus.....I know they are all slightly different like a 1/32" or a 1/16" here or there.
I have never been that thrilled with what Retrosound offers....for their prices. Yeah, they look the part....but for those prices I would say they need more features. Ray |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:40 am Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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Thanks for all the input guys. I really appreciate it. But why you no share pics of your setup? Why the mystery? I know I am not the only one that has/wants a radio/ stereo in the stock hole. I will keep you posted if my finds.
Thanks
Martin
Allwagons _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
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mikedjames Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:55 am Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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Thirty years ago, I fitted a twenty year old Sharp stereo in my boat, from when mounting was two holes for the spindles and a rectangular hole big enough to insert a cassette sideways, which I modded with a switch on the volume control and a transformer based earth loop isolator for my Nokia N95. The stereo still works after 30 years of damp sea air.
If my bus had not been hacked for a DIN mount by the PO, I think that stereo would have ended up in my bus. _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
1974 VW T2 : Devon Eurovette camper with 1641 DP T1 engine, Progressive carb, full flow oil cooler, EDIS crank timed ignition.
Engine 1: 40k miles (rocker shaft clip fell off), Engine 2: 30k miles (rebuild, dropped valve). Engine 3: a JK Preservation Parts "new" engine, aluminium case: 26k miles: new top end.
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raygreenwood Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:05 am Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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ALLWAGONS wrote: |
Thanks for all the input guys. I really appreciate it. But why you no share pics of your setup? Why the mystery? I know I am not the only one that has/wants a radio/ stereo in the stock hole. I will keep you posted if my finds.
Thanks
Martin
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Mine is not installed in NY car yet. But I will share exact dash measurements and exact measurements and pictures of my deck.
Then you can measure what you have. Not saying you will want the stereo I have by any means.....but it's measurements are very common for aftermarket.
There really are more "fittable" stereo out there than one would think. There are still quite a few made. For aftermarket there is nothing like there was 30-40 years ago....and just as many are "double DIN" because just as many older used cars that are buying aftermarket stereo are not that old....90s into 2000's....so they had big double wide stereo.
Just a few years back....really...like five at the most, the last company that I knew of that produced an aftermarket, single wide stereo with cassette deck was Continental.
Continental actually has a really nice line of "pretty modern" stereos....but they have q very alight tinge of retro. The lighting and shape of the features are very European and are somewhat styled after 90's models of Blaupunkt and Clarion (that's just my opinion).
Speaking of Blaupunkt, you might search around on the internet for NOS or lightly used 1990s Blaupunkt head units like the Blaupunkt Lexington or Bremen (model SQR-46)....which came in Porsche 911/912 and also aftermarket. Or something like the Blaupunkt Portland (SQR-26)....a VW branded version of which came in VW Fox and other cars. These and others were AM/FM/cassette. The 46 also controlled a Blaupunkt 10 disk CD changer in the trjnk.
These were the last golden years of Blaupunkt right before being bought by Bosch and then sold to China. They had just a couple more years of their good German speaker designs being made elsewhere (and they were still excellent)....and then when the Chinese deal went through, they were stripped of the German designs. The last of what was good in both speakers and head units disappea4ed about 2006.
But, to my point, Blaupunkt made so many classes of head unit and had so many dealers that there has been tons of NOS stock appearing for quite a while. Lots of used out their too but they are fetching new head unit prices.
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raygreenwood Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:14 am Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash |
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Holy Crap!
Blaupunkt has recently brought back the "Bremen" model that used to be in many European cars in the 1990s.
Size, shape and look are all there but where the cassette deck....WAS....is a little door covering the slot and all of your modern media plug ins are underneath (microSD card slots, line in, phone etc) all modern internals with Bluetooth, five channel outputs, etc. Etc. It also has Vario-color so you can tune the button and backlight colors to match your dash! No CD.
https://www.classiccarstereos.com/blaupunkt-bremen...05EALw_wcB
If you got the coin.....$570....likes just like any Porsche or high end VW in the 1990s but with modern bells and whistles!
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