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baldessariclan Samba Member

Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 2051 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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I'm working on adding a few more combination wrenches to my 1971 standard Beetle's onboard roadside / light maintenance tool kit. I've already got, and/or seem to remember using the following wrench & socket sizes for the most part:
-- 7 mm (e.g. brake bleeder screws)
-- 8 mm (used on some small stuff)
-- 10 mm (relatively common bolt/nut size)
-- 11 mm (?? seem to occasionally run into this size bolt/nut)
-- 12 mm (?? same as above)
-- 13 mm (very common bolt/nut size)
-- 14 mm (find used on some larger stuff)
-- 17 mm (?? occasionally find on some larger stuff)
-- 19 mm (wheel lug nuts, etc.)
Anybody know of other common bolt & wrench sizes I may be missing here? Do VW Beetles commonly use 9 mm, 15 mm, or etc. bolts/nuts anywhere? |
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shakers73 Samba Member

Joined: June 14, 2011 Posts: 826 Location: Saltville, Va
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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36mm rear axel nut mine takes a 27mm, I'm thinking for the steering wheel removal. These will have to be sockets, preferably 1/2 in drive for the 36mm _________________ shakers73
'74 Super Beetle
'67 Beetle
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VW_Jimbo  Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 11167 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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21mm - generator nut and one other spot but I am drawing a blank. _________________ Jimbo
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33092 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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baldessariclan wrote: |
I'm working on adding a few more combination wrenches to my 1971 standard Beetle's onboard roadside / light maintenance tool kit. I've already got, and/or seem to remember using the following wrench & socket sizes for the most part:
-- 7 mm (e.g. brake bleeder screws)
-- 8 mm (used on some small stuff)
-- 10 mm (relatively common bolt/nut size)
-- 11 mm (?? seem to occasionally run into this size bolt/nut)
-- 12 mm (?? same as above)
-- 13 mm (very common bolt/nut size)
-- 14 mm (find used on some larger stuff)
-- 17 mm (?? occasionally find on some larger stuff)
-- 19 mm (wheel lug nuts, etc.)
Anybody know of other common bolt & wrench sizes I may be missing here? Do VW Beetles commonly use 9 mm, 15 mm, or etc. bolts/nuts anywhere? |
I used a 9mm once in my life on ANY vehicle, once on a carburetor electrojet.
15mm - cylinder head nuts, brake pushrod locking nut and shaft
-- 7 mm (e.g. brake bleeder screws) - I've seen aftermarket bleed screws (like on mine) that use 8mm wrench
-- 8 mm (used on some small stuff)
-- 10 mm (relatively common bolt/nut size)
-- 11 mm (?? seem to occasionally run into this size bolt/nut)
-- 12 mm (?? same as above) - not on VW unless someone has used a JIS (Japanese) nut which has 8 x 1.25mm thread but uses 12mm wrench
-- 13 mm (very common bolt/nut size)
-- 14 mm (find used on some larger stuff)
-- 17 mm (?? occasionally find on some larger stuff)
-- 19 mm (wheel lug nuts, etc.)
21mm - oil drain plug
22mm - can't remember where
24mm - oil pressure sender
27mm transmission carrier, steering wheel nut
30mm - crankshaft pulley bolt
36mm rear axle nut & flywheel gland nut
Metric flare wrench 11mm for brake lines
6mm and 17mm allen wrenches
Triple Square 8M if IRS transmission _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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vwjetboat Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2017 Posts: 1732 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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9mm = clutch bolts on jettas golfs and such.. and that is all i can think of 9mm is good for lol |
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vwoldbug Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2009 Posts: 1216 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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Spark plug socket |
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Bama Dave Samba Member

Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 963 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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shakers73 wrote: |
36mm rear axel nut mine takes a 27mm |
Are you sure? That's different....or is it the use of commas that is throwing me? _________________ David Richerson
!964 Beetle Sedan
1970 Beetle Sedan
1971 Super Sedan
1972 Baja
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Bama Dave Samba Member

Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 963 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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24mm for oil pressure switch and reverse light switch. _________________ David Richerson
!964 Beetle Sedan
1970 Beetle Sedan
1971 Super Sedan
1972 Baja
hellthorne wrote: |
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airschooled Air-Schooled

Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 13491 Location: West Coast, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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I keep a deep 10mm socket for the exhaust donut gaskets, and a 6mm open end wrench for the AAR if you have a fuel-injected bug.
9mm socket with extensions are used on late model throw-out-bearing guide sleeves.
12mm triple-square XZN "stars" are used on some automatic VW drive plates, but maybe not auto-sticks.
Some tie rod ends use a 4mm Allen bit in the end of the threads to keep them from spinning if you use hand tools to install. A 1/4" drive light impact driver works too, but sometimes when you need to replace a tie rod boot in the middle of the desert……
Have a thin metric nut-fucker for wheel bearing clamp nuts up front and other stuff you don't think about like new-style tie rods and eccentric alignment bushings.
_________________ One-on-one tech help for your vintage Volkswagen:
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shakers73 Samba Member

Joined: June 14, 2011 Posts: 826 Location: Saltville, Va
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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Bama Dave wrote: |
shakers73 wrote: |
36mm rear axel nut mine takes a 27mm |
Are you sure? That's different....or is it the use of commas that is throwing me? |
Let me rephrase that, 36mm for axel nut and my steering wheel nut I think takes a 27mm _________________ shakers73
'74 Super Beetle
'67 Beetle
Where there is no vision, the people perish. |
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modok Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 27672 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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You won't need to remove the steering wheel as a roadside repair.
10, 13, 14, 15, 17 possibly, but any more wrenches than that, is just silly to cary with you unless there is no home.
VW didn't as a general rule use any 11 or 12mm, but there are exceptions and possibly non-standard hardware has been added since. What size are they? the generator could be 19 or 36.....which nut did you put on it?
I use vise-grips for that.
#1 tool, vise grip wr5,
#2 wr10,
#3 six in one screwdriver
#4.... not sure, maybe, a hammer |
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heimlich  VWNOS.com

Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 7502 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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Have them all ready unless you know your car. I've found so many mismatching bolt sizes on cars I've purchased.
I've also added to the confusion myself. Instead of using 14mm bolts on the steering shaft I put some 13mm ones on there so now there are 13mm and 14mm ones. For the 13mm bolts on the outside of the engine I've found all different sizes. You get the point.
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baldessariclan wrote: |
I'm working on adding a few more combination wrenches to my 1971 standard Beetle's onboard roadside / light maintenance tool kit. I've already got, and/or seem to remember using the following wrench & socket sizes for the most part:
-- 7 mm (e.g. brake bleeder screws)
-- 8 mm (used on some small stuff)
-- 10 mm (relatively common bolt/nut size)
-- 11 mm (?? seem to occasionally run into this size bolt/nut)
-- 12 mm (?? same as above)
-- 13 mm (very common bolt/nut size)
-- 14 mm (find used on some larger stuff)
-- 17 mm (?? occasionally find on some larger stuff)
-- 19 mm (wheel lug nuts, etc.)
Anybody know of other common bolt & wrench sizes I may be missing here? Do VW Beetles commonly use 9 mm, 15 mm, or etc. bolts/nuts anywhere? |
I used a 9mm once in my life on ANY vehicle, once on a carburetor electrojet.
15mm - cylinder head nuts, brake pushrod locking nut and shaft
-- 7 mm (e.g. brake bleeder screws) - I've seen aftermarket bleed screws (like on mine) that use 8mm wrench
-- 8 mm (used on some small stuff)
-- 10 mm (relatively common bolt/nut size)
-- 11 mm (?? seem to occasionally run into this size bolt/nut)
-- 12 mm (?? same as above) - not on VW unless someone has used a JIS (Japanese) nut which has 8 x 1.25mm thread but uses 12mm wrench
-- 13 mm (very common bolt/nut size)
-- 14 mm (find used on some larger stuff)
-- 17 mm (?? occasionally find on some larger stuff)
-- 19 mm (wheel lug nuts, etc.)
21mm - oil drain plug
22mm - can't remember where
24mm - oil pressure sender
27mm transmission carrier, steering wheel nut
30mm - crankshaft pulley bolt
36mm rear axle nut & flywheel gland nut
Metric flare wrench 11mm for brake lines
6mm and 17mm allen wrenches
Triple Square 8M if IRS transmission |
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baldessariclan Samba Member

Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 2051 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:16 am Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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Excellent input / info. everybody -- thank you very much!!  |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79530 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:37 am Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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3/8" if you use Jet Nuts on the intake and exhaust manifold studs.
Just saying. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
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heimlich  VWNOS.com

Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 7502 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:31 am Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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Get to know her before you take her for a ride. |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33092 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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Special wrenches, ground down for tight areas where there is little clearance. Compare to non-ground. I have these in 11mm, 12mm (for my Mazda and Nissan trucks), and 13mm.
_________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Zundfolge1432  Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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Take a look at that old book by John Muir, in it he gives three scenarios beginner, intermediate and professional. He breaks down what you'd find in each of these boxes and further mentions carrying a few spares. All of this is dependent on the skill level of the owner, why carry things over and above what you can do? |
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gt1953 Samba Member

Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13947 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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Gotta love that old Penncraft wrench. Pick up the ones you want to reshape, grind, bend whatever, get them at the pawn shop/swapmeet.
Zundfolge1432 point is well taken, why carry more then your expertise. So cell phone aaa card and a list of friends. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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heimlich  VWNOS.com

Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 7502 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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I like the angled open end wrench (not the S) for the engine bolts. I never could get anything on there very well but with the angled one I can get over the bar that connects the two beams. |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33092 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: VW Beetle standard bolt / wrench sizes? |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Gotta love that old Penncraft wrench. |
Hey - bought that metric Penncraft set brand-new in 1971 for my "mechanic's helper" job at Tim's Auto Repair in Phoenix; I couldn't afford Craftsman or Snap-On.
Those Penncraft wrenches are lifetime-guaranteed, and I've never broken one, or lost one, in all these years. Hmmm - I wonder how JC Penney would handle a warranty claim..... _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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