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jsalkeld Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2013 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:54 pm Post subject: Waterboxer operation post oil cooler OWHX failure |
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Hi All
My 86 has suffered a heat exchanger failure.
It happened early in a run and by the time I discovered it, about 2 qts of oil had entered the coolant system.
That's what it took to get the oil level to "add".
The tip off was the factory over-temp light.
I shut down immediately.
No other indications until I checked the coolant pressure tank and it was full of "milkshake".
It's at a shop 1000kms (700 miles) from home.
They proved the exchanger failure and coolant in the oil, though I don't know how much.
I can get them to replace the cooler, change the oil and flush/clean the coolant system.
So, has anyone seen recovery and operation after this this degree of cross-contamination?
My return options are limited and/or expensive.
I'm wondering if anyone has insight into my odds of making it home under power after the above fixes?
I know the oil will deteriorate the hoses - How fast? Is this an immediate or mid-long-term thing?
The pressure and temps (digital aftermarket gauges) were good until the heat problem arose.
I don't know if that was a fouled (lotsa gunk) sender or the rad gumming up or general lack of cooling properties.
Lack of viscosity/lubricity in the oil system would be the other concern and it's affect on the internals.
Other than the gauges there is no way of knowing if (and/or to what degree) that happened.
Has anyone seen this much mess and the engine survived it?
Thanks _________________ 86 "The" Westy
78 Super Beetle Cabriolet WIP
89 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet - Summer Driver
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5674 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Waterboxer operation post oil cooler OWHX failure |
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i've had cars with blown head gaskets that puked oil into the coolant. it is a pain to remove but you can get nearly all of it out. buy a large container of liquid Cascade brand (it really does clean better than a cheaper brand) automatic dishwasher detergent and keep dosing-running while the thermostat opens- and flush. repeat. and repeat. it helps to remove the thermostat so things are always circulating thru the radiator. and letting the system get hot each flush helps also. _________________ -dan
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5674 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Waterboxer operation post oil cooler OWHX failure |
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also, can you see any markings on the failed HX to determine if it was OE VW or an aftermarket product? _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52290
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Waterboxer operation post oil cooler OWHX failure |
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This is one of several reasons I eliminated the oil cooler on the 2.1L I installed in my 83 1/2. The cooler has multiple failure modes and the 1.9L does fine without it, so why live with a system that does little or no good and can kill your engine without notice. |
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