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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:51 am    Post subject: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

So I have a relatively new-to-us `95 EVC that I've been told a few things about, including:

1. That current and past maintenance/service records indicate many, many observations that the engine oil pan is seeping, and multiple failed attempts reseal it. Still leaking onto the driveway. And further, because it clearly struck a rock or something in the past, it has misshapen to the point where it's not possible to seal, and further still, nobody is willing to attempt to "pound it out" for fear of ripping/cracking the sheet metal irreparably, therefore replacement of the pan is the only viable option

2. That the vehicle is not a regular 1995, but rather a 1995 1/2 (whatever that means? How would one verify this? Does the VIN reveal?) and that, for mind-blowing reasons, ours has a different pan than what is available from catalog orders - the multiple attempts to order the correct replacement pan have resulted in delivery of a standard 1995 pan which we are told does/will not fit.

Any insights, resources, tips on how/where to proceed? I don't know how to identify the model-year or part number to even begin hunting for this on my own, even from a pick & pull, ebay listing, etc. The mechanic shops don't want to put time into this any longer - they're happy to install a provided part, but cannot waste any more time trying to identify/locate it. Sure would be nice to seal this thing up!

Thanks!

PS: ACU engine!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

Bring your VIN to a dealer and get the right part number from them
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

It sounds like what you are describing is the transmission pan. The engine sump on the ACU engine is cast aluminum. The pan part number is 01P-321-359, and has been discontinued from VW in 2019 (according to europarts-sd).

The "95s" had both the 098 auto transmission and the 01P - this pan works for both. Not sure what you have been ordering - maybe you have a manual?

I think you are in for an eBay search, or a junk yard.

The 95's had some differences, there is often a mid year VIN referenced - this is not always accurate, however. For instance, on my 95 with an "early" VIN, the wire set is supposed to have a short coil lead - it does not.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

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It sounds like what you are describing is the transmission pan. The engine sump on the ACU engine is cast aluminum.


I just crawled under there and double-checked. You're right! The dented pan is the transmission (automatic), flat sheetmetal one, and the ACU engine one is indeed cast aluminum. So one would think, then, that the regular engine pan should be fine as long as it is not cracked, just needs a good seal, and it's the ATX pan that needs a replacement - are there two variants of that based on the half-year model that would make it difficult? I haven't ordered anything myself, it's been the mechanics trying to put in for it, getting the wrong part, and sending it back, so I'm not sure what they have been ordering.

I might check with the local VW dealer indeed and see if they can track it down.

When I asked on our last mechanic visit, they told me that the transmission model was "CGK" - does that correlate to the 098 or 01P part numbers? I am not sure that I can see any part of the transmission without a partial tear-down to see what it is stamped (?)

Thanks for the insights!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

Googling this, it seems that the "CGK" transmission correlates to the 098xxx part number:

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Key aspects of the 1995 Eurovan CGK transmission:
The CGK transmission is identified by part number 098300035RX.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

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and it's the ATX pan that needs a replacement - are there two variants of that based on the half-year model that would make it difficult?


No. the same pan is used for the 098 and the 01P, per europarts-sd.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

Here's an outrageously pricey used one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/135764477173?_skw=eurovan+oil+pan+098321359A

The one in the listing above appears to be shaped like the slightly depressed one that I see on our van.

This Rialta EuroVan one appears to have an identical shape except for a strange pickup tube or something popping up/out of it. If that can be cut down and out of the way, it might be a viable alternative. The simplicity of the 098 pan (just a boring basin with a drain plug, no frills, baffles, nothing), seems like it would nearly any donor vehicle with the same flange shape would do (assuming they don't do something REALLY annoying like shift the bolt pattern by 5mm just to prevent that).

Here's the Rialta one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116573692614


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

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Here's an outrageously pricey used one:


Boy, that one is reasonably priced in comparison to this one: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/275354077940
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

You have to remove the pan anyways, can you just use a hammer and dolly or a flat surface to get it back into shape?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Damaged oil pan on a 1995 1/2 Reply with quote

I would carefully remove and checked the threaded holes of all 5 fasteners. I have found many times on customers T4s the threads have been pulled thus making a tight seal between the pan and trans impossible. The trans is only cast aluminum so quite soft. A couple of choices if this is the case: re-tap to M7 or drill out and install a thread-sert. I generally start with the former.
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