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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 10:43 am    Post subject: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

What is this post for, is it needed, if no how do I remove it?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

First off, where are your velocity stacks?
In short, its a snorkel someone added. Does it need to be that long? Probably not.
Is it needed? Depends who you ask.
Should you remove it? Its up to you.
Why is it there? Do some research and inform yourself. Then make the choice if you need it or not.

My guess is, that cheap thin air filter base plate is not what was on the carb when the mod was done originally.
My guess, it was from a racing or off-road application in its previous ownership.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

Thanks?

Despite the sarcasm and part shaming (I never knew Flat 4 was cheap stuff, guess I do now) telling me what it is helped. I tried doing my research before hand but couldn't figure out what to even call it, so I got nothing prior to posting here. I guess the "Rookie Question" title must've thrown you off, but I found what info I needed. So thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

bigwhit wrote:
Thanks?

Despite the sarcasm and part shaming (I never knew Flat 4 was cheap stuff, guess I do now) telling me what it is helped. I tried doing my research before hand but couldn't figure out what to even call it, so I got nothing prior to posting here. I guess the "Rookie Question" title must've thrown you off, but I found what info I needed. So thanks.


Goddamn, dont be so sensitive.
1., the oxford dictionary defines sarcasm as “ the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.“ there was no irony in any of this , therefore no sarcasm.
2., it was never stated that “flat 4 was cheap” , it was however stated that the air filter base plate was thin and therefore described as also cheap. Because as people who work on these, we have seen both good and bad ( cheap ) quality parts. Your base plate is a cheap, tin base plate, not a good quality one. Thats just a fact, not a description of all flat 4 parts nor is it an insult.

Lastly, you aught to apologize to Schepp for your assumptions of his intentions and you jumping to conclusions. He and only he, replied to you and told you the exact answers you needed and then some. Read his other posts and you’ll see none of the things you accused him of. Yet what did you give in return? A bunch of pissing and whining because he apparently didnt word it to your liking.

If you took much time to research just the carburetor youd see that there is a bowl vent there. The “snorkel “ might have been a little harder to find but they are still out there for sale. But just knowing that it’s a bowl vent you could draw the conclusion that someone has extended it for some reason even without knowing what that snorkel part was, or the tube.
Nothing wrong with not knowing, nothing wrong with asking rookie questions, we all have. But you need to drop that victim mentality, especially when someone is actually helping you.
im still not sure how theres a whole generation of victims out there…
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

bigwhit wrote:
Thanks?

Despite the sarcasm and part shaming (I never knew Flat 4 was cheap stuff, guess I do now) telling me what it is helped. I tried doing my research before hand but couldn't figure out what to even call it, so I got nothing prior to posting here. I guess the "Rookie Question" title must've thrown you off, but I found what info I needed. So thanks.


Your pissy response gets this from me.
You asked, I answered. No matter who I the hell you bought that cheap thin base plate from doesn’t change the fact it is what it is. I’m in no way bashing Flat4. Just because Flat4 sells that part doesn’t mean they made it. They stock what sells. If poor quality cheap parts is what sells, they’ll continue to stock it.

You didn’t state that you did any research yourself.
I’m pretty much done giving people handouts on here. Figure it out yourself like we all had to. Read some articles and books. There is so much information on IDF’s here on The Samba, you just have to read. Often people who say they’ve done their own research haven’t really spent the time needed to learn. A quick 10min google search doesn’t count.
I literally just replied to someone last week about IDF’s and posted links to pages from the Haynes Weber book.
But instead of searching for answers, people will continue starting new posts asking the same damn thing answered the week prior.

Your question was a bit different. I answered appropriately. Don’t like it? Too bad. I had more to offer you but not after that response. I have a zero tolerance for whining adult babies. Good luck with your shit.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

well, that went to hell in a handcart quickly ? I think that's the WORST thread I have seen on here for quite some time.
Very Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

Murt wrote:
well, that went to hell in a handcart quickly ? I think that's the WORST thread I have seen on here for quite some time.
Very Sad


You can thank the ungrateful one for the crappy response to my helpful answer.

There was another ungrateful one in the offroad section a few weeks ago. It got real juicy.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

Don't sweat it schepp, good answer.
The guy says he's in human relations?
Perhaps our OP isn't familiar with how people in technical fields communicate.

But I would say it's called an "extended float bowl vent".

And while we can only guess how it is attached, perhaps glue? epoxy? acrylic?
my guess is.... you remove it by pulling harder or cutting it off.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

I take back what I said about that Flat4 part. I had to look it up.
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/3315.htm?s...UqkjhPhfp9

It’s an expensive piece of garbage. There I said it.
It’s a K&N wrapped with a cheese grater. Good luck filtering out anything but mouse turds.

Shouldve bought this, this and this instead:

https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/3337.htm?s...Vo7d0Cm__e

https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/3318.htm

https://www.cbperformance.com/Aluminum-Air-Filter-Top-IDF-DRLA-each-p/3300.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

To clarify, is that Uni filter an actual filter element, or is it a wrap for the outside of a filter? I thought that they only made the outer wraps.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

I have the 6” tall version.
It’s a thick stainless steel mesh cage. Encased by two different density pre-oiled foam filters. I do believe that you can separate them but I haven’t tried.
For $15 it’s one of the best filters out there for fine dust. I’ve not had a clogged idle jet with this filter, base and top setup.

I chose to link the shorter version because the picture shows the inside mesh.

UNI also does make outer wraps as well. This one however is not a wrap.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

Bulli Klinik wrote:
To clarify, is that Uni filter an actual filter element, or is it a wrap for the outside of a filter? I thought that they only made the outer wraps.


They make both.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

Thanks! I'll have to put that on my shopping list.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

Murt wrote:
well, that went to hell in a handcart quickly ? I think that's the WORST thread I have seen on here for quite some time.
Very Sad


I felt I should say that I was very sorry about this, I know ive been slacking on busting peoples balls and so the threads havent gone to hell like they used to. ill try to do better

and thread had useful information regardless so not a loss
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

bigwhit wrote:
What is this post for, is it needed, if no how do I remove it?

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Looking at other pictures; should there not be two (2) tall emulsion tubes?

#50 in last picture, shown standing proud of top base plate in upper image.
Also shown the velocity stacks (#1 in last picture) and centre of upper.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

redhot wrote:
Looking at other pictures; should there not be two (2) tall emulsion tubes?

It's not an emulsion tube, it appears to be some sort of float bowl vent (?), per modok. I haven't seen one like that before though.

These IDFs have the short emulsion holders, you can just barely see one of them - the other would be on the other side of that hunk of aluminum.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

Early Weber IDF carbs did come with tall Main Jet stacks
40IDF did not come with velocity stacks. 44 and 48 IDF carbs did come with velocity stacks.
This is what I do on my own IDF carbs for an extended float vent. Something I learn from Greg at FAT Performance when they own the business.
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It is a piece of 3/8" steel tubing flatten to fit opening in carb top and epoxied in place
Approximately 1-1/2" long cut at angle on top for better flow.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

One learns every day alive...

This shows a very similar piece - that then maybe have been further modified to extend it vertically upwards;

https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/6393.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

Nice find! That’s a new one to me.

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One learn every day alive...

This shows a very similar piece - that then maybe have been further modified to extend it vertically upwards;

https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/6393.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Rookie Question on Weber IDF 44s Reply with quote

jsturtlebuggy wrote:
Early Weber IDF carbs did come with tall Main Jet stacks
40IDF did not come with velocity stacks. 44 and 48 IDF carbs did come with velocity stacks.
This is what I do on my own IDF carbs for an extended float vent. Something I learn from Greg at FAT Performance when they own the business.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

It is a piece of 3/8" steel tubing flatten to fit opening in carb top and epoxied in place
Approximately 1-1/2" long cut at angle on top for better flow.


Did a similar mod been working great
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