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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:25 am    Post subject: Cooling Fan Hub Reply with quote

So I've searched and searched, but still have yet to answer all my questions. I bought a new hub assembly for my cooling fan. I have a couple of questions about it.

#1. Does the hub (with the woodruff key slot) get pressed onto the output shaft on the alternator? Mine is a tight fit...

#2. What is the order of the hub parts? I've got 4 parts all together. The hub, a large flat washer that has the same inner hole shape as the hub, a large washer that has 2 sides (if a circle has sides) kind of bent up, and a large nut. I also bought a shim set. What washer do I need to use? According to the picture below, I should be using both. When I am trying to assemble it the way the picture shows, there is no way it will all fit together. Is one washer for a earlier fan rather than a doghouse fan?

And FYI, I'm running a welded and balanced fan in a scat doghouse shroud.

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Help is greatly appreciated!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The shims allow you to shim the fan outward if needed. Sometimes they can rub on the fan shroud with out them. They go between the hub & fan.

The lock washer (curved washer) goes on the fan after the fan is mounted on the hub , then the nut to secure it.

You may have to assemble it a couple of times to get it shimmed for proper clearence.

The hub should go on freely (not sloppy). Try cleaning the shaft first with emmery paper or fine sand paper. Make sure the key is seated all the way into the slot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! Helps me with the hub fitting on the shaft.

What I have is this kit below. So if I understand correctly, I do not need to use the flat washer...

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I should only need the hub, lock washer and nut correct??
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need the shims to space the fan away from the gen tin. See the Bentley manual for proper amount.
Which size fan are you using? Measured between the discs that is.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proper shim size is .07-.08" between pulley and gen/alt backing tin - for all models IIRC.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the shims, I'm not worried about being able to space it. I'm worried about the order of the hub parts. It seems there is something extra...

I understand it will need to be shimmed to sit properly in the fan shroud.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After non-stop searching...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Cooling Fan Hub Reply with quote

Hi,

I have a 1966 bug with a 6 volt generator and just learned that a ’66 bug with a 6 volt generator only has one backing plate, not two.

I am trying to figure this out as well, and I can’t make out what is going on in the video.

I have a thin spacer, a large flat washer, a wavy washer a hub (I think that is what you call it) and a special nut.

I should have taken pictures because I have no idea what order they go.

I have also read there is a slot at the bottom of the plate that is attached to the generator and is supposed to be facing down. I do not have a slot and I assume because the 6 volt generator only has one backing plate.

I can’t seem to find any photos or video that I can make out of this procedure.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: Cooling Fan Hub Reply with quote

DSVW wrote:

I can’t seem to find any photos or video that I can make out of this procedure.

Thanks.


"Gallery" button at top of any of the screens of TS website. Entered "Fan Diagram" to find any workshop manual pages. Found these results:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php...t_dir=DESC

Am better at 40 HP, but think that the 1300cc (big IF you have the original engine) uses same gen tin. 40HP fan is designed to suck air thru the generator, which is why the cooling fan for those and earlier engines have six about 7/8" holes in the rear of the fan.

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Where 1500/1600 blows air thru the generator and the gen tin was changed for that, and fan only has two very small holes in it for only the manufacturing jig. Plus the downward vent in the gen tin.

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Please do post images of your gen tin pieces and fan.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooling Fan Hub Reply with quote

Yes,

I have the fan with the holes in it, so I believe my fan and shroud are all original to the car. Everything is complete with working flaps.

I literally just got the unit together and it spins freely and is not rubbing anywhere.

Thank you for your help.
Now I need to get the generator/regulator and everything else back in to the shroud.

I bought a rebuilt Bosch generator, and hopefully it lasts. It was rebuilt by BBB industries which is changing its name to Terrepower.
It is the same generator as the one I pulled out.

I know, I know, it all depends on who did the rebuild but it does have a 3-year 36K mile warranty. My old one is completely shot, looks like melted wires inside and the armature is probably shot. Brushes are ok though. i will keep it and send it out later for a complete rebuild.

The generator didn't come with any paperwork, so I don't know if I need to polarize it or not.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooling Fan Hub Reply with quote

Good! Did you get he proper spacing from the rear of the fan to the gen tin???

Just polarize it.

Find a local generator/starter rebuild shop and have your old one rebuilt by them. That way you will have a spare on the shelf.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooling Fan Hub Reply with quote

I am not sure about proper spacing. I used the same rig; washers, shims nuts, that I took off the old one.
I will insert it in the fan shroud tomorrow to make sure there is proper clearance.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooling Fan Hub Reply with quote

DSVW wrote:
I am not sure about proper spacing. I used the same rig; washers, shims nuts, that I took off the old one.
I will insert it in the fan shroud tomorrow to make sure there is proper clearance.


Spacing should be .080" or 2mm, and can only be checked with gen/fan assembly out of the shroud.

REAR SIDE OF FAN as in closer to the rear bumper.

You need to get a copy of this version of the Official VW Service Manual ASAP:

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=book2

You can find a used copy in the TS classifieds or a new one online for less if you shop around. This manual can easily save you a lot of money and even you life by skipping doing something wrong when working on your VW.

Several decades ago they used to print these wiring diagrams in full color, now just B&W, so if you find an old copy..... Still if need be you can download the color wiring diagrams off of TS and have you local print shop print at least 50% bigger copy and laminate the diagram for you.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooling Fan Hub Reply with quote

Thanks. Just measured it and I am just about dead on at 2mm
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