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Prime1986 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2023 Posts: 4 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 7:17 pm Post subject: Engine spins fine but doesn't start |
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So I have a FI 1978 Bus with electronic ignition.
It was running fine then I had some points burn out. I have fixed that problem but now the engine spins but doesn't fire. I've gotten it to start maybe once after about 3 attempts. If I get it to run it's fine going down the road but it just doesn't start!
I found out I had a bad battery so I got a new one, also replaced the ignition coil which fixed a slow start issue.
It appears to be getting spark
It floods so it's getting fuel.
Any help would be appreciated |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42808 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Engine spins fine but doesn't start |
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did you replace the capacitor? Normally when they go bad that is why points burn. _________________ George Carlin:
"Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it."
Skills@EuroCarsPlus:
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Prime1986 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2023 Posts: 4 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Engine spins fine but doesn't start |
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SGKent wrote: |
did you replace the capacitor? Normally when they go bad that is why points burn. |
Ended up swapping in an electronic ignition unit. Since this happened 3 times. _________________ 1978 Fuel Injected Passenger Bus "Sean"
Past:
1978 Bus Beige over Panama Brown "Jules" Rust In Peace
Check Your Fuel Lines people! |
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SGKent  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Engine spins fine but doesn't start |
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750,000 miles and I never "burned" points suddenly. They do slowly pit and wear out at 12,000 - 15,000 miles typically. Since we now know full story, go back over your wiring on the electronic ignition. If that fails, swap in your spare set of points, or electronic module, and see what happens. Keep in mind that 1979 had two factory ignition coils. One was solely for the VW electronic ignition in California and the other was for points, e.g., Federal. Also many aftermarket ignitions require a special coil to work right. Some aftermarket electronic ignitions will not work with L-Jet because it uses the coil pulse as the starting point to shape the injector signal. _________________ George Carlin:
"Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it."
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Prime1986 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2023 Posts: 4 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Engine spins fine but doesn't start |
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SGKent wrote: |
750,000 miles and I never "burned" points suddenly. They do slowly pit and wear out at 12,000 - 15,000 miles typically. Since we now know full story, go back over your wiring on the electronic ignition. If that fails, swap in your spare set of points, or electronic module, and see what happens. Keep in mind that 1979 had two factory ignition coils. One was solely for the VW electronic ignition in California and the other was for points, e.g., Federal. Also many aftermarket ignitions require a special coil to work right. Some aftermarket electronic ignitions will not work with L-Jet because it uses the coil pulse as the starting point to shape the injector signal. |
Interesting to know about the LJet and Electronic crossovers. The unit is a Pertronix ignitor, the original one.
Mines a 1978 Federal so luckily no special junk is required or replaced. I'll see what I can do with a set of points _________________ 1978 Fuel Injected Passenger Bus "Sean"
Past:
1978 Bus Beige over Panama Brown "Jules" Rust In Peace
Check Your Fuel Lines people! |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42808 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: Engine spins fine but doesn't start |
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I would try an echlin capacitor from your local Napa Auto just to be safe. ECH EP433 at $18 is the part.
Or if you can wait, get a Standard Motor Products GB160 @$8 from RockAuto.
don't forget points grease on the lobes and to put a couple drops of oil on the wick under the rotor. _________________ George Carlin:
"Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it."
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mikedjames Samba Member

Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 3389 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Engine spins fine but doesn't start |
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Check you have 12 volts on the coil when its cranking. Ignition switches go bad. _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
1974 VW T2 : Devon Eurovette camper with 1641 DP T1 engine, Progressive carb, full flow oil cooler, EDIS crank timed ignition.
Engine 1: 40k miles (rocker shaft clip fell off), Engine 2: 30k miles (rebuild, dropped valve). Engine 3: a JK Preservation Parts "new" engine, aluminium case: 26k miles: new top end.
Gearbox rebuild 2021 by Bears.
1979 Westerly GK24 24 foot racer/cruiser yacht Forethought of Gosport.
1973 wooden Pacer sailing dinghy |
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