Hubdach lifting roof latches

[NZPablo]

Kia ora! I have a SO69/5 Paris with a lifting roof (hubdach). I’ve owned it now for 16 years. The lifting roof came with what look like non-std tie-down straps installed. They look like helmet straps to me. And while they work well, they take forever to undo and redo. I’d love to find out what the bus should have and restore them to that. The lid itself is fibreglass and the upper most mounts appear to be factory installed. Maybe the lower part is too?
Is there anyone else out there in samba-land that has the same/similar roof who could show me what mine should look like?

Many thanks
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1970 Type 2
Westfalia SO69/5 'Paris' interior (original and intact)
Westfalia Lifting Roof (Hubdach)
Chianti Red

[busdaddy]

Odd...., every small top Westy I've had used the standard rubber bungee hold downs, but they went into a hook with 2 vertically oriented screws, here's an aftermarket example in the wrong color: https://www.busdepot.com/231068013a

If there are no previous holes hiding behind those footmans loops I'm thinking they once used the rear hook for the early pop top there: https://www.busdepot.com/j13144
It would certainly reduce the risk of digging holes in your scalp on the protruding hook.

Here's an OG one as used in a full sized top:

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[Willin]

Hi
What you have looks very functional. But I would agree that the double D rings are less than ideal.
It would be easy to copy the straps with ladder lock style nylon buckles, and some proper, thinner ,nylon webbing.Which would be easier to thread.
Guess that's not original though.
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[rsbadura]

Hello,

In the picture from busdaddy, the holders are not quite complete; one of the metal ends at the bottom had a plastic covering for protection.

The later 1977 later, large (earlier ones were somewhat shorter) pop-up roof 216 014 841 001 installation instructions with drawings:
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/data/documents/1977-07-westfalia-popuproof.pdf

Some available rubber straps are too stiff to stretch. Many are black, few are white/pastel. I had tried several suppliers until I found the right one 15 years ago.
The complete original set isn't available - some parts are nearly similar and could been modify - maybe something like this:
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=231068013A

regards,
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Rolf-Stephan Badura
1970 VW Karmann-Ghia Coupe
1979 VW Bus L camper conversion
1982 Eriba Pan travel trailer
2017 VW CrossPolo
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[NZPablo]

Interesting. Thanks guys, all good info.

I found these: https://serial-kombi.com/en/s/roof-handle-westfalia-8-1967-7-1973-13-5cm-yellow-mounts-and-screws/

They look like they might work. Maybe my ‘footman’ loops are original (cant seen any old screw holes behind them) and the straps are the only replaced part. And Im missing the rubber handles and their clips? Which is what that last drawing from rsbadura looks like too.
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1970 Type 2
Westfalia SO69/5 'Paris' interior (original and intact)
Westfalia Lifting Roof (Hubdach)
Chianti Red

[rsbadura]

[NZPablo]

Superb level of detail Rolph. Danke.

So if i can find the correct rubber bungee part, it will be like OG.

Sidenote, I have 3 latch points on the small hubdach. Your diagrams appear to indicate there were sometimes only 2, on the centreline front and rear.

I kind of like how secure my roof is - we do get a lot of strong crosswinds here. But Im interested to know what the original config might have been.
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1970 Type 2
Westfalia SO69/5 'Paris' interior (original and intact)
Westfalia Lifting Roof (Hubdach)
Chianti Red