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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: went offroad in big puddle...car won't start now.........?? Reply with quote

I spend thousands of dollars buying new parts for this "peice of junk" and I get stuck push starting it everytime I want to move it back and forth on the street just so it wont get towed.....I'm glad I have a honda..... Rolling Eyes Razz

no offense to any of you die hard vw guys I just dont have what it takes to keep fixing my vw every week when something goes wrong with it.

ok, here's what happened......
I've got a new tranny, new starter, and rebuilt engine. I went up to the mountains to conquer a big puddle, one I've been getting stuck in and ever scince I lifted my suspension I've been wanting to go back. To make a long story short I FINALLY made it through the big puddle without getting stuck once (its all about ground clearance!) and I imedietly encountered the most typical problem of coarse being water in the distributor but that eventually dried out. I went to a friends house to hose down my baja before going home. I made it home but the next time I tried starting it nothing happened and its been like that ever scince.........

I turn the key and the lights on the speedo turn on but there's no clicks, buzzing, or other noizes that indicate the ignition is working. I cleaned all the connections on the starter but no luck.

I really need some help on this one please...... Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going to hose down your motor with water, either by puddle or by faucet, you should waterproof your distributor. Same thing when you power wash the engine bay of any car, stay away from the electrical unless you know you can get it wet without problems!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spray some PB blaster in your distributer and electrical will get rid of the water.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check the lines to the starter, waterproof the dizzy, check fuses, check battery, and the rest of the basic stuff
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skidmark wrote:
If you are going to hose down your motor with water, either by puddle or by faucet, you should waterproof your distributor. Same thing when you power wash the engine bay of any car, stay away from the electrical unless you know you can get it wet without problems!


I know..... thats not the problem I'm having....I plan to waterproof the distributor before I go through the next puddle but thats a whole other issue.... and thats definetly not whats wrong here. I've washed my car plenty of times, sometimes spraying directly over the distributor with the power washer and even then it would still fire up after a few seconds of cranking. thanks for the suggestion.....that deos'nt solve the problem though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you said that you just replaced the starter check the cables to the starter, make sure they are not corroded or loose, make sure there is no leaking through any of the cable wholes in the battery area, make sure the ground strap at the battery hasn't worked it's way out or corroded
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We went off road with a group of bajas (long time ago) and we were contemplating a stream crossing. None of were daring enough until one of the cars decided to try. My problem was I couldn't see the bottom all the way across. As soon as he hit the middle of the stream his whole baja started to float down stream. Those that don't believe VW's will float should have seen this. Unfortunately he didn't have his doors sealed very well and his baja sank about 15 yards down stream. It was hilarious to watch! the water line came up to the body line in the door just below the bottom of the window. We made him tie the tow rope on the rear axle tube (it was a s/a) before we would tow him out. We had to chain two baja's together to pull his car out of the stream. When he pulled his dipstick out of the motor it looked like a drinking fountain! A stream of water arced out the dipstick tube about 6"... I guess sometimes it doesn't matter how much you try to waterproof your baja!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: went offroad in big puddle...car won't start now........ Reply with quote

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I turn the key and the lights on the speedo turn on but there's no clicks, buzzing, or other noizes that indicate the ignition is working. I cleaned all the connections on the starter but no luck. Confused


So, it sounds like you A) arent getting power to your starter, B) Are getting power to the started but the solenoid is shot, C) Might have a blown fuse or a faulty ground.

If I misread the problem let me know.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you checked your voltage from your ignition switch?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mentioned that I cleaned the connections on the starter in my first post. I didnt mention this in my first post but I also went ahead and checked & cleaned the connections to the battery also and the fuses and all the basic stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you got a starter from auo-zone or simular it maybe the starter its self. if it is rebuilt. if not then it can be taken down and have the starter tested
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had the same problem on my buddies bug today, turned out to be a bad starter. But the problem is it could be a bunch of stuff. You are gonna have to go one by one till you find the culprit.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is why i said to check the stater first then run all the wires and so on from there. if he ran through water it could have been anywhere front to back
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, just agreeing with ya. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry didn't mean to sound short
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, no prob man. Cool We're all here to help a brother out. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is a rebuilt starter and I got it from pep boys. I just bought it and I also bought a new battery. I'll check the starter and maybe the battery aswell, maybe there's an 'open' circuit and the battery keeps getting drained...hmmmmm
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had an open circuit that took my 4 btteries beofre i could finally fix it
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, pep boys is usually pretty cool about starters and stuff. The can check it there, most stores have the machinery. Just make sure they use the charts to check the readings and dont just eyeball it. I used to work there BTW Wink Also, have you tried hotwiring your starter? sometimes that will tell you if the problem is closer to the battery or "spaghetti".
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you try shorting a screw driver from the battery terminal on the starter to the soleniod terminal. If this makes your starter spin then you're probably not getting voltage back to it from your key switch. If it doesn't click then you might just have a bad soleniod. If the soleniod clicks but the starter doesn't spin then you either have bad contacts in the soleniod or open windings or bad brushes in the starter.
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