Cip1 Front Cot? result with pic's.

[Kombi///M3]

Anybody using the Cip1 storage cot? I wonder if it will fit our Bus. I remember somebody mentioned it will fit, though Vanagons are a bit wider.
Could it be use for a child cot? They claim it's a storage cot, I've seen
some Bay buses with the same steel, though my old 70 had a solid bar
and same mounting bracket.
here's the link.
Thanks.
Ogi

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C27%2DJ11825

I guess I missed this one. looks like it will work;)
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=238846&highlight=child+cot

[vwjoel]

I could use one! My 5 year old could sleep up there for a few years. The CIP one doesn't look super sturdy but it might hold 50 lb if it was spread evenly. This guy makes Vanagon specific cots for the front.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1461872

[geo_tonz]

Very tempting...with a tintop and a zbed that could be good to dump the kids into!
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[Kombi///M3]

Ya I've seen that ad too and G. Lee's. Pretty pricey;(
Just looking for some cheaper ones. The PVC pipe versions are
great.. Just want something a bit factory style.
I guess I can make one too.

[bjrogers86auto]

Making one very similar isn't very difficult and it cost me about $50.

Brian
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[danfromsyr]

nice, though I have one concern Brian

and I'm far from a safety police.
but I would NOT put that J-hook on the door pillar right by where my head is supposed to contact during a major accident.
Afraid I'd hang my (or passanger's) head up by the ear canal.
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[WestiCoast]

I love my PVC cot. It will hold me if I stick my feet out one window. My little boy loves it. I guess the white pvc isn't very stylish but it spends most of its life up in the top bunk while I am driving arround.

[Witless Joe]

WestiCoast, how badly do those flat straps chafe the door weather seal at the top of the window frames?

I used rope for my PVC cot experiment, which beat the hell out of the weather seal.

I'm not keen on eye-level A-pillar hardware for the same reasons as danfromsyr.

Are flat straps the best compromise here, or does anyone else have a brilliant idea?

[geo_tonz]

I'd be worried any strap/rope that went outside would wick rainwater in past the door seals. I'd want it interior mounted for use here on the wet coast.
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"Ron Burgundy": 1991 Vanagon Multivan (Weekender) 2.1L Auto - Driver/Camper

[Kombi///M3]

Well.. I placed an order and hopefully to pick it up this afternoon.
I'll keep you guys posted.

[WestiCoast]

I used the flat strap specifically because I was concerned with damaging the weather-stripping. I have used it several times and have seen no ill effects. And I have used this in the rain and didn't experience any water coming into the cab. The stuff I used was 1" webbing strap that you can buy by the foot at REI. It was excess from my slack line. It will hold several thousand lbs.


I cut a narrow slot in a piece of 3/4"PVC. Then I pulled the strap through the slot and out one end of the pipe. After tying a knot the knot gets pulled back into the pipe. I did it that way more for the UV protection than the water but I guess it serves both purposes.

Here is a closer shot. The knot got pulled further in after I put some weight on the cot.

[ajdenette]

I don't believe the solid rail front cot will fit into the Vanagon, there was a version with telescopic rails that does fit thought the height of the steering wheel does leave a lump in the cot. as a child I did sleep in it and it was comfortable it does make a great place to store gear and can hold a lot of weight. I will try to grab a few pictures this weekend of both the Syncro and the Westy we have these for.
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[Kombi///M3]

You got it right "Skipper"..the busdepot is the same as cip1. Picked up the cot, and for the price... I think it's great. The material they use for the fabric is kind'a weak in my opinion. Comes with the same factory brackets, drill bit and the screws are tiny. The steal bars are pretty tough & can handle a few lbs for sure. Looks like Justkampers made this set up. Has their tag on the package. Overall it's the right cot for the bay for sure. For our breadbox.. Like Ron said, it will work but a tad higher for a child.

I'm thinking of cutting it and weld the diff. to make it fit just above the steering wheel.
It measures 57.25"in length. I need 58.5 front and 60" rear.
And the height gain will be around 4", that's sitting flush with the steering wheel. Hope I'm making sense I'm still contemplating. I'll post pics asap.
Thanks for all the info gents.
Cheers.

[Kombi///M3]

So far here's what I've done. Instead of welding, I went to home depot and found a aluminum 1" square tube, there's a steel ones too but heavy and will flex. Cut the X bar in half and shove it in the tube from the depot. later on I will drill a small hole and screw it on for security.

Now I have the adjustable bar

Here's the hardware, for now I'll use the screws that came with it.

Measured and screwed one side first before I got the right angle. I placed a sticky foam in there too to prevent scratch on the paint from the bar ends.

Front side done.

Here's the back. I wasn't sure of the bracket angle but I tested it and it seems fine. the front seats are as far as it can go back, the most space I can get with out taking the headrest off. I just don't want to do that hassle when it's time to set the cot up. I should've angle the bracket a bit more.

Pic from the back side. With the square tube I can't get anymore lower..headrest is on the way, trying to leave a bit of gap between the bar and the headrest.

I'll tackle the fabric for the cot tomorrow. I want to use a thicker material than cotton. So far I'm in $110 bucks for this set up. Not as cheap as others have done for sure. But still cheaper than some.
Cheers,
Ogi

[geo_tonz]

Maybe it's the camera angle but isn't the front bar too low for the cot to clear the instrument pod and steering wheel?

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[geo_tonz]

[Jeff's Old Volks Home]

[Kombi///M3]

[Kombi///M3]

Finished it yesterday and took my boys camping overnight. My 6 yr old slept on it and no complaint, he loves it;)

Cheers,
Ogi