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MsTaboo  Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4549 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:47 pm Post subject: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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While working on replacing my front carpet I unbolted the hand brake lever to get it out of the way, and I figured it could use a cleaning and re-lube. It's been kinda sketchy lately.
Found that one of the pins that hold the device together is missing the E-clip and that two of the pins are getting wallowed out where the E-clip goes.
https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/usa/vanagon/va/1990-78/7/711-70001/
Buslab is out of stock of these pins # N90209501 (#12 in diagram)
https://www.buslab.com/product-p/n90209501.htm
And the E-clip # N0124373 (#13 in diagram)
https://www.buslab.com/product-p/n0124375.htm
Have checked the other usual sources and came up empty. Any ideas for suitable replacements?
Also have a question about the silver cup shaped device at the end of the spring # 481-711-327 (#4 in diagram).
On mine it's kinda mushed, I have managed to bang it back into shape but there does not seem to be a definitive location for this thing. It's just sorta jammed at the end of the flare. Wondering why it got mangled.
(I'll post picture in a bit) _________________ Currently:
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7179 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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You could prolly get the pin machined for fairly cheap (not as cheap as the NLA part though). What's the E clip size? 8mm ballpark? Fit a 5/16" clip or have the groove machined to accept an imperial clip ( yuck). _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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kevinm Samba Member
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MsTaboo  Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4549 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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OK, I got lucky and found the missing E-clip. It had fallen off and dropped down into the plastic cup the brake rod/cable goes through.
Fortunately for me it was well wedged under the rod at the very bottom so didn't get sucked up while I was vacuuming all the old contact cement flakes.
Just fyi, Weedle does stock the E-clip, it's also used on the bay transmissions.
However the groove in the pin is so worn the clip will most likely pop off again so I still need to replace these.
Haven't been able to find a metric version so might have to use imperial and oversize the holes.
Stock pin is 15 mm long, 13mm diameter, 12mm groove, with 9mm between shoulder and groove. Groove is just over 1mm wide.
(edit per below; should say 8mm diameter, 7mm groove)
Wish I had a lathe, could easily turn one out of 7/16" (should be 5/16") stock.  _________________ Currently:
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syncroserge Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2005 Posts: 570 Location: Okotos, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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MsTaboo wrote: |
Stock pin is 15 mm long, 13mm diameter, 12mm groove, with 9mm between shoulder and groove. Groove is just over 1mm wide.
Wish I had a lathe, could easily turn one out of 7/16" stock.  |
A lathe would do a better job..but with those dimensions and a Dremel you can make one from an M14 or 9/16" bolt pretty quick. |
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Steve M. Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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syncroserge wrote: |
MsTaboo wrote: |
Stock pin is 15 mm long, 13mm diameter, 12mm groove, with 9mm between shoulder and groove. Groove is just over 1mm wide.
Wish I had a lathe, could easily turn one out of 7/16" stock.  |
A lathe would do a better job..but with those dimensions and a Dremel you can make one from an M14 or 9/16" bolt pretty quick. |
You could put the bolt in a drill and spin it while using the cutting disc on a Dremel to make the ring groove. Then use the cutting disc to cut the bolt to the length you need. _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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While we're all spit-balling, is there a shoulder screw that can serve this purpose or provide a headstart on machining a suitable replacement?
https://www.amazon.com/SZHKM-Tolerance-Industrial-Applications-SD5SL4-M3TL6/dp/B07R3JMTJM
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MsTaboo  Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4549 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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Thanks for the ideas. I might just use a bolt and nylock nut until I can find (or make) the real thing. There's enough room under the cover to hide the (gasp) counterfeit fasteners for now.
The assembly is way more stable with all three pins holding it together, and a cleaning plus lube has smoothed the action.
Still not sure how that little cup at the end of the spring got chewed up. _________________ Currently:
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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13mm diameter is a rare thing with the Germans, it's usually 12 or 14 for shafts They really wanted to make it hard to drop in something else! Or maybe a gross 1/2" pin from the link Kevinm posted would match then just make the groove? _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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MsTaboo  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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Here's that picture I forgot to post.
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syncroserge Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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Not sure they are the right dimensions but those sure look a lot like the clutch and brake clevis pins.
https://vancafe.com/clutch-brake-pedal-pin/ |
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pathao Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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MsTaboo wrote: |
Here's that picture I forgot to post.
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looks like there's enough space on the nose of those to drill for a small cutter-pin. Along with a regular flat washer and call it a day _________________ 1982 AC P27 - 2.0 FI FED - 091 - BA6
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RGS Paul Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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The diameter is 8mm, not 13 mm. One of mine is also worn, I'm ordering a shoulder screw from McMaster to try and I'll report back.
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MsTaboo  Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4549 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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RGS Paul wrote: |
The diameter is 8mm, not 13 mm. One of mine is also worn, I'm ordering a shoulder screw from McMaster to try and I'll report back.Paul |
HA! Good catch. Total embarrassing brain fart. Misread the metric scale on my calipers while scribbling down the measurements, should have caught the fact that they're not a 1/2" in dia.
Yep, 8mm diameter with 7mm groove. _________________ Currently:
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RGS Paul Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Parts for hand / parking brake handle |
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I was having to convert manually so I was extra paranoid. Mine has the same worn groove yours probably does so your three was timely. We’ll see how things sort out. It’s such a short pin I was having a hard time finding something off the shelf, it would be easy enough to machine though. The tolerances on the stock ones don’t seem especially tight.
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