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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

Hi,

please has anyone got a photo of an original one they can post up ?

All the Best ... Chris
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: battery strap Reply with quote

Hi Chris,
found a pic from the 54 manual in the gallery (added by Anchovy), not the best image but u can see the metal strap and fixing.

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(and one from Rockstock) 53/54 manual
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the second one looks similar to what I have in the 61 DC.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for info my bus has the original battery tray, and has the threaded stud fixing.
I think its been suggested that a late split bus petrol tank strap could be turned into a late barndoor battery strap.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the pics, the barndoor this is for has a threaded stud fixing, I am looking for pics of how the strap is attached to the other side, the bent tab (nearest the side of the bus) ... anyone ?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=195223
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As far as I know, it just slides under the bracket on the other side and is bent over. If someone has an original in place, I would like to know how far it travels through the bracket.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: battery strap Reply with quote

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(and one from Rockstock) 53/54 manual
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This image is from the post-Barndoor 1955 shop manual.

All Barndoors have the other strap and the negative cable bolts to the battery tray.

I verified that by examining both my 53/54 manual and my 55 manual.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=195223
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As far as I know, it just slides under the bracket on the other side and is bent over. If someone has an original in place, I would like to know how far it travels through the bracket.


excellent info Everett, many thanks, I will try it on the bus tomorrow Very Happy

does anyone out there still have their og battery strap on (or with) their bus ? ... if so could you post up a photo ?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the strap is the same set up as post BD gas tank straps. the securing bracket is identical to those of the gas tank brackets.the strap itself would likely need to be shortened to your needed length.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusting Hulk wrote:

I think its been suggested that a late split bus petrol tank strap could be turned into a late barndoor battery strap.


Yes, I've seen this done. Just needs to be shortened I believe.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:41 pm    Post subject: battery strap Reply with quote

Hi Chris
is it this you desire?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: battery strap Reply with quote

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Hi Chris
is it this you desire?
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yes, thank you, that is great Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

I'm resurrecting the dead thread...

I'm searching for a battery strap for my November '54 Kombi, and it seems to be holiest of grails.

I'm struggling to find information on them, let alone one for my bus.

For those of you that have converted a late bus fuel tank strap, how/what did you use on the outer side? The tank straps have tabbed ends, whereas the bus flange has a hole for a hook.

First prize would be an original strap, however if I have to make one, I'd like to get it as close as is possible.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

Merlin wrote:
I'm resurrecting the dead thread...

I'm searching for a battery strap for my November '54 Kombi, and it seems to be holiest of grails.

I'm struggling to find information on them, let alone one for my bus.

For those of you that have converted a late bus fuel tank strap, how/what did you use on the outer side? The tank straps have tabbed ends, whereas the bus flange has a hole for a hook.

First prize would be an original strap, however if I have to make one, I'd like to get it as close as is possible.

Thanks.

The fuel tank strap has a welded fitting on one end, and the other end is just the loose strap which slides through a slot and folds over on it's self.

I use fuel tank straps to make custom length battery straps for post-barndoor buses. The original ones fold around the clamp and are spot welded, but I don't bother welding them because once you fold it back on it's self, it doesn't go anywhere.

From the pictures, it looks like you just need a fuel tank strap and fit it to the size of the battery.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
Merlin wrote:
I'm resurrecting the dead thread...

I'm searching for a battery strap for my November '54 Kombi, and it seems to be holiest of grails.

I'm struggling to find information on them, let alone one for my bus.

For those of you that have converted a late bus fuel tank strap, how/what did you use on the outer side? The tank straps have tabbed ends, whereas the bus flange has a hole for a hook.

First prize would be an original strap, however if I have to make one, I'd like to get it as close as is possible.

Thanks.

The fuel tank strap has a welded fitting on one end, and the other end is just the loose strap which slides through a slot and folds over on it's self.

I use fuel tank straps to make custom length battery straps for post-barndoor buses. The original ones fold around the clamp and are spot welded, but I don't bother welding them because once you fold it back on it's self, it doesn't go anywhere.

From the pictures, it looks like you just need a fuel tank strap and fit it to the size of the battery.


Hi Lind,

Thanks for the info'. Much appreciated.

The outer mount on my Kombi is for a hook though, not a tab.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


I've seen the same in other buses, and reference photos.

I'm struggling to find clear photos of a strap showing the 'hook' end of the strap.

Do you perhaps have photos of these late barndoor straps to share?

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

Merlin wrote:
Lind wrote:
Merlin wrote:
I'm resurrecting the dead thread...

I'm searching for a battery strap for my November '54 Kombi, and it seems to be holiest of grails.

I'm struggling to find information on them, let alone one for my bus.

For those of you that have converted a late bus fuel tank strap, how/what did you use on the outer side? The tank straps have tabbed ends, whereas the bus flange has a hole for a hook.

First prize would be an original strap, however if I have to make one, I'd like to get it as close as is possible.

Thanks.
The fuel tank strap has a welded fitting on one end, and the other end is just the loose strap which slides through a slot and folds over on it's self.

I use fuel tank straps to make custom length battery straps for post-barndoor buses. The original ones fold around the clamp and are spot welded, but I don't bother welding them because once you fold it back on it's self, it doesn't go anywhere.

From the pictures, it looks like you just need a fuel tank strap and fit it to the size of the battery.
Hi Lind,

Thanks for the info'. Much appreciated.

The outer mount on my Kombi is for a hook though, not a tab.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


I've seen the same in other buses, and reference photos.

I'm struggling to find clear photos of a strap showing the 'hook' end of the strap.

Do you perhaps have photos of these late barndoor straps to share?

Thank you.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Flatten the strap, slide it along the bottom of the battery tray under the bracket, and fold it back upon it's self. Basically put the two above photos together.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
Merlin wrote:
Lind wrote:
Merlin wrote:
I'm resurrecting the dead thread...

I'm searching for a battery strap for my November '54 Kombi, and it seems to be holiest of grails.

I'm struggling to find information on them, let alone one for my bus.

For those of you that have converted a late bus fuel tank strap, how/what did you use on the outer side? The tank straps have tabbed ends, whereas the bus flange has a hole for a hook.

First prize would be an original strap, however if I have to make one, I'd like to get it as close as is possible.

Thanks.
The fuel tank strap has a welded fitting on one end, and the other end is just the loose strap which slides through a slot and folds over on it's self.

I use fuel tank straps to make custom length battery straps for post-barndoor buses. The original ones fold around the clamp and are spot welded, but I don't bother welding them because once you fold it back on it's self, it doesn't go anywhere.

From the pictures, it looks like you just need a fuel tank strap and fit it to the size of the battery.
Hi Lind,

Thanks for the info'. Much appreciated.

The outer mount on my Kombi is for a hook though, not a tab.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


I've seen the same in other buses, and reference photos.

I'm struggling to find clear photos of a strap showing the 'hook' end of the strap.

Do you perhaps have photos of these late barndoor straps to share?

Thank you.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Flatten the strap, slide it along the bottom of the battery tray under the bracket, and fold it back upon it's self. Basically put the two above photos together.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Thanks, Lind.

I see it now. Smile

Much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

Interesting my 52 has no strap but two springs either side of the battery that clamp on top with two small clips.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

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Interesting my 52 has no strap but two springs either side of the battery that clamp on top with two small clips.


Earlier style. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

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KOMBI NIKO wrote:
Interesting my 52 has no strap but two springs either side of the battery that clamp on top with two small clips.


Earlier style. Smile

And probably not too safe with springs Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Battery securing strap Reply with quote

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Interesting my 52 has no strap but two springs either side of the battery that clamp on top with two small clips.


Very cool, just like split window beetles only for the early. 👍 👍
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