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Braukuche
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If I were to figure the hours I put into my cars and the price I get for them when I’m ready to move them on I’m probably at Industrial Revolution textile worker wages.
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1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
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Loren
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| Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Do you really think you are making that much?  |
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Era Vulgaris
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| Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Maybe if those wages are going straight back to the company store
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66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
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98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Era Vulgaris wrote: |
| Maybe if those wages are going straight back to the company store |
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Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Congrats JAL on the sale.
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Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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JAL78 
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Joined: January 25, 2017
Posts: 128
Location: Novato, CA
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| Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Congrats JAL on the sale. |
I felt it was a fair deal at $36,500 considering the last sale on BAT for a 67 vert was $35,500. You couldn’t get this amount on The Samba, Ebay or CL.
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1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
1974 Thing |
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kingkarmann
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Joined: November 05, 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| JAL78 wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| Congrats JAL on the sale. |
I felt it was a fair deal at $36,500 considering the last sale on BAT for a 67 vert was $35,500. You couldn’t get this amount on The Samba, Ebay or CL. |
Excellent result for a great example!
I invited the new owner to join us on the dark side if they haven’t already.
I have a tinge of sadness for the other bidder as his user name VWRAISED seemed to convey a strong passion for the Ghia.
It also looked like they signed up for BAT specifically to bid on your Ghia.
Any idea where it’s going?
Again, congrats😎
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JAL78
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Joined: January 25, 2017
Posts: 128
Location: Novato, CA
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| Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| kingkarmann wrote: |
| JAL78 wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| Congrats JAL on the sale. |
I felt it was a fair deal at $36,500 considering the last sale on BAT for a 67 vert was $35,500. You couldn’t get this amount on The Samba, Ebay or CL. |
Excellent result for a great example!
I invited the new owner to join us on the dark side if they haven’t already.
I have a tinge of sadness for the other bidder as his user name VWRAISED seemed to convey a strong passion for the Ghia.
It also looked like they signed up for BAT specifically to bid on your Ghia.
Any idea where it’s going?
Again, congrats😎 |
The car is going to a really happy lady in Savannah Georgia. She says she’s been searching on BAT for a long time and this was her car. As you can see it really is a nice car and would have kept it if it was as correct as yours. I couldn’t find the items to make it 100% correct. Your right about parts being unobtainable such as the door mirrors, door pulls, rear view mirror, lobster claw seat belts, dash pad, anir cleaner and ashtray.
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1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
1974 Thing |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Between you sale and mine I almost think the prices are going back up again?
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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JAL78
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Joined: January 25, 2017
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Location: Novato, CA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| Between you sale and mine I almost think the prices are going back up again? |
I agree! Early Spring is always the best time to sell convertibles.
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1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
1974 Thing |
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Marcdeb
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Posts: 3039
Location: Vermont
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| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
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Love that color. |
Pretty serious opening bid !  |
That’s Ronsr the junkyard king and VW collector. Lately he’s been bidding $15k on every Ghia that’s popped up but then usually stops. |
The car sold to it's only bid! $15,001. Something seems very odd with this auction?? Obviously, the opening bid was higher than all other bidders cared to pay. It does have a lot of issues.
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68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
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Love that color. |
Pretty serious opening bid ! |
That’s Ronsr the junkyard king and VW collector. Lately he’s been bidding $15k on every Ghia that’s popped up but then usually stops. |
The car sold to it's only bid! $15,001. Something seems very odd with this auction?? Obviously, the opening bid was higher than all other bidders cared to pay. It does have a lot of issues. |
It because Ronst the junkyard king has been throwing $15k bids at every Ghia that’s popped up recently. Maybe because he’s tired of seeing all thr pointless $5k and $6k bids and wants to juice them up into reality land? So far he’s always been outbid, but he got stuck this time.
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Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
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Love that color. |
Pretty serious opening bid ! |
That’s Ronsr the junkyard king and VW collector. Lately he’s been bidding $15k on every Ghia that’s popped up but then usually stops. |
The car sold to it's only bid! $15,001. Something seems very odd with this auction?? Obviously, the opening bid was higher than all other bidders cared to pay. It does have a lot of issues. |
It because Ronst the junkyard king has been throwing $15k bids at every Ghia that’s popped up recently. Maybe because he’s tired of seeing all thr pointless $5k and $6k bids and wants to juice them up into reality land? So far he’s always been outbid, but he got stuck this time. |
It might have hurt the seller, but I can't see this car going any higher so probably not.
Hope he's happy with his purchase! LOL
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Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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JAL78
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Joined: January 25, 2017
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Location: Novato, CA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
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Love that color. |
Pretty serious opening bid ! |
That’s Ronsr the junkyard king and VW collector. Lately he’s been bidding $15k on every Ghia that’s popped up but then usually stops. |
The car sold to it's only bid! $15,001. Something seems very odd with this auction?? Obviously, the opening bid was higher than all other bidders cared to pay. It does have a lot of issues. |
It because Ronst the junkyard king has been throwing $15k bids at every Ghia that’s popped up recently. Maybe because he’s tired of seeing all thr pointless $5k and $6k bids and wants to juice them up into reality land? So far he’s always been outbid, but he got stuck this time. |
Who knows. My guess is that he placed a bid on this car haphazardly without throughly looking through the listing. He’s probably had no intention of actually purchasing it especially because he has indicated that he prefers stock cars as investments which this car is not. I appreciate that he’s trying to increase the values of Ghia’s overall but may have overpaid on this one. With the rust, metal work and paint repairs he will be into this car way more than it’s worth.
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1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
1974 Thing |
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kimkinzie
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Location: Maui, HI
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| JAL78 wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
Love that color. |
Pretty serious opening bid ! |
That’s Ronsr the junkyard king and VW collector. Lately he’s been bidding $15k on every Ghia that’s popped up but then usually stops. |
The car sold to it's only bid! $15,001. Something seems very odd with this auction?? Obviously, the opening bid was higher than all other bidders cared to pay. It does have a lot of issues. |
It because Ronst the junkyard king has been throwing $15k bids at every Ghia that’s popped up recently. Maybe because he’s tired of seeing all thr pointless $5k and $6k bids and wants to juice them up into reality land? So far he’s always been outbid, but he got stuck this time. |
Who knows. My guess is that he placed a bid on this car haphazardly without throughly looking through the listing. He’s probably had no intention of actually purchasing it especially because he has indicated that he prefers stock cars as investments which this car is not. I appreciate that he’s trying to increase the values of Ghia’s overall but may have overpaid on this one. With the rust, metal work and paint repairs he will be into this car way more than it’s worth. |
@Ronst seems to be a fairly heavy player on BaT with over 49 purchases in the past few years. His bid was actually not out of character based on previous behavior, and his bank account can certainly withstand a lot of headwinds. Perhaps we are all a bit too eager to judge ...? A sampling of his wins over the years (Ghia mentioned above in 2nd position):
If that is considered a "junkyard", I want some scraps ...
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Marcdeb
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JAL78
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| Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Most recent Ghia on BAT sold for $27,250. A rather squared away yellow 71 vert. I expected it would easily go over $30K. Collector cars are not doing as well as a few yrs ago. I might be mistaken, but I'm am pretty sure this is the car I almost bought 5 years ago. Back then I could have bought it for $19,000.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-convertible-31/ |
The market is definitely not what it was a couple of years ago. However its on the up for sure especially the convertibles. I did not expect it to go for 30+being a 70-71 model. It would have if it was a a 69 or earlier convertible in the same condition. I feel that $27,250 was a fair price for this car considering that Braukuche's car sold for $29,000 which in my opinion was a superior car and was represented excellently.
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1956 Beetle Oval Rag top with Judson SC
1958 Karmann Ghia convertible
1959 Karmann Ghia coupe
1961 Karmann Ghia convertible
1965 Karmann Ghia convertible
1973 Karmann Ghia convertible Sport Edition
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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| kimkinzie wrote: |
| JAL78 wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| Marcdeb wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
Love that color. |
Pretty serious opening bid ! |
That’s Ronsr the junkyard king and VW collector. Lately he’s been bidding $15k on every Ghia that’s popped up but then usually stops. |
The car sold to it's only bid! $15,001. Something seems very odd with this auction?? Obviously, the opening bid was higher than all other bidders cared to pay. It does have a lot of issues. |
It because Ronst the junkyard king has been throwing $15k bids at every Ghia that’s popped up recently. Maybe because he’s tired of seeing all thr pointless $5k and $6k bids and wants to juice them up into reality land? So far he’s always been outbid, but he got stuck this time. |
Who knows. My guess is that he placed a bid on this car haphazardly without throughly looking through the listing. He’s probably had no intention of actually purchasing it especially because he has indicated that he prefers stock cars as investments which this car is not. I appreciate that he’s trying to increase the values of Ghia’s overall but may have overpaid on this one. With the rust, metal work and paint repairs he will be into this car way more than it’s worth. |
@Ronst seems to be a fairly heavy player on BaT with over 49 purchases in the past few years. His bid was actually not out of character based on previous behavior, and his bank account can certainly withstand a lot of headwinds. Perhaps we are all a bit too eager to judge ...? A sampling of his wins over the years (Ghia mentioned above in 2nd position):
If that is considered a "junkyard", I want some scraps ... |
He really is the junkyard king. He owned a slew of them across Texas and elsewhere. That’s where he made his money. I wasn’t alluding to his collection.
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:51 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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If one is looking for an entry level project this might fit the bill.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-33/
All that is needed is a donor Ghia although......
this could be the perfect candidate for a TDCTDI Baja build 
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