New 70' Squareback project, the ugliest duck in town

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Greetings VW peeps,

I just bought the worst and cheapest Squareback in California, and i love her ha. It's a 70' My knowledge is all Type 1 and Type 2, so type 3 world is new to me. For starters, Ive been hitting all the boards and reading, also yes, my manual is in the mail, I ordered one off ebay

Instead of a deep dive into simpler questions I wanted to open a basic build thread with some quick starter help questions for my build journey. Pro's, my SB is 95% rust free and solid, cons, it's a roller, and someone cut out the rear floor to get that lovely engine hatch lid, anyways, I'll be sourcing parts.

My SB came as a roller, no motor or trans, I understand that type 1 motors work, but all the tines and carb setups are different, essentially type 1 short or long block is the same?

And of course, I have no trans that came with the car, what transmissions will fit, any IRS trans ok? Or is the trans type 3 specific, or simple swaps of things like nose cone and shifter linkage and the same?

Thanks all, excited to have a new project and have some chats.

Phil

[Glenn]

the oil cooler lays down and the oil fill requires either a Type 3 case or a universal case.

The hole in the lower right is the oil fill, it's blocked off in a Type 1 application.

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Thanks Glenn,

I remember reading that somewhere about the oil fill being the main thing on the block. I'll be shopping around for options.

Can someone chime in on the trans? Will "any" IRS trans work in a type 3 Squareback, with or without subtle changes? Ive seen some deals in my areas for Bug transmissions that are later model IRS. Curious if those would work for me.

[Tram]

[Bobnotch]

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I would source out all type 3 stuff. A complete rebuildable engine for sure, that way you will have all of the correct tin.
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[gt1953]

Since starting from scratch a type 4 engine may be your ticket...they are outthere.
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Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.

72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold})

[Tram]

On the other hand... if you've never experienced a stock and properly tuned / balanced FI 1600 engine... you owe yourself the experience.

One upgrade I HIGHLY recommend:
https://www.123ignitionshop.com/gb/volkswagen/267-151-vw-4-r-v-ie.html#/1-distributor_cap-straight_r

They also have a Bluetooth tunable model available but they are finicky. And... if you upgrade to Type 4 later, you can use it there, too, with either D-Jet or carbs.

The advantage of the 123 is that everything is now digital- including injector trigger points. No lag times due to cumbersome mechanics in the old distributor and no more cumbersome and expensive trigger point sets for D-Jet FI.

Their prices are in Euros and include the 19% EU VAT, so you get 19% off here in USA. They do charge a fee to process your payment (this is allowed in the EU) but shipping charges are on par with domestic shipping but shipping times to you are often faster than shipping inside of USA. Also, their communication and support is absolute top.

And no, I'm not a paid spokesperson (although maybe they should consider it!)
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[Bobnotch]

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Oh man, any parts car is going to be better condition than what I bought haha, If I did that Id just build another car, I really bought a pile Thanks guys, I'll just make sure to get the gearbox numbers and run them, and look them up to see what year and gearing it is before buying.

So when shopping for my transmission, with these gearing changes and such, which ratio is "best" on type 3's, being that this will be a mild performance build and having owned bugs and my bus with freeway flyers, and loved those.

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