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Kevv Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2015 Posts: 3 Location: TX
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:03 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Just got my birth certificate and had a couple questions:
-If I supplied the engine serial number and it got placed on the cert is it the factory engine?
-Does anyone know what the A72 means?
Thanks for the help.
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finster Samba Member

Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 10157 Location: not far from the madding crowd
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:20 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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they used to say "Your engine number is the original one since date of delivery"
however if they have put the number you gave them on the certificate 'for the delivery status of your car' that should mean it was the engine in the car in july 71. otherwise they do not show an engine number (if the number you gave them was from another car)
the A72 is odd especially as 'country settlement Grea(t) Britain' makes no sense and would not seem to be relevant to a usa car _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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grooovy212 Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2024 Posts: 24 Location: UT
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:19 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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I am excited I just ordered a certificate for my van. I am new to owning a VW classic and I am interested in finding it's history. I bought the vehicle last week from a lovely lady who's husband passed away. She has no information on it at all. Does anyone have any other helpful places to do research? |
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2003nbc Samba Member

Joined: February 04, 2008 Posts: 97
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Update on Timing (to USA) and M-Codes question:
Ordered BC on 9/26/24
Received shipping tracking information email 10/17/24
Received Packet via USPS 10/28/24
Anyone know what codes M161 and M162 are for a sedan? - already checked archives listings and also codes found in spare parts listing.
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KingAir42 Samba Member

Joined: May 24, 2002 Posts: 620 Location: Bakersfield California
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Darn, I messed up I think. I just bought a Birth certificate because I wanted to see if my engine was original. I did not put an engine number on the form, only the vin and type. _________________ A stitch in time saves nine |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71613 Location: Phoenix 602
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KingAir42 Samba Member

Joined: May 24, 2002 Posts: 620 Location: Bakersfield California
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:37 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Thanks, I just sent an email. We will find out… _________________ A stitch in time saves nine |
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Texas_1958 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 8 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:04 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Quick question. I have a 1956 oval, US spec. (bullet turn signals, overrider bumpers, MPH clear needle, etc.) beetle. My VIN is 10829** (last two digits redacted).
I ordered Birth Certificate and Data Sheet. To my surprise (and concern) the paperwork came back suggesting I have a Sept. 1948 Type 11. Although I would love to have a split I clearly do not have one. One thing I notice, on the paperwork they cite the VIN as 1-0829** (again, last two digits redacted). When I filled out the order form I was pretty sure I transposed the VIN without any hyphen.
I have reviewed this thread and it seems many people are not reading the paperwork correctly. Though I am at a loss. I would know if I had a split window. The paperwork they have sent back is the VIN number I submitted except they added in a hyphen after the 1 and are suggesting I have a 1948.
Any thoughts? _________________ 1958 VW Bug |
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Texas_1958 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 8 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:38 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Texas_1958 wrote: |
Quick question. I have a 1956 oval, US spec. (bullet turn signals, overrider bumpers, MPH clear needle, etc.) beetle. My VIN is 10829** (last two digits redacted).
I ordered Birth Certificate and Data Sheet. To my surprise (and concern) the paperwork came back suggesting I have a Sept. 1948 Type 11. Although I would love to have a split I clearly do not have one. One thing I notice, on the paperwork they cite the VIN as 1-0829** (again, last two digits redacted). When I filled out the order form I was pretty sure I transposed the VIN without any hyphen.
I have reviewed this thread and it seems many people are not reading the paperwork correctly. Though I am at a loss. I would know if I had a split window. The paperwork they have sent back is the VIN number I submitted except they added in a hyphen after the 1 and are suggesting I have a 1948.
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01/02/2025 -Update-
I just received a response email from the customer care folks that research and put together the VW Birth Certificates and Data Sheets. They seem to acknowledge they made a slight mistake and will "correct and send a new copy as soon we get the data from the factory archives." _________________ 1958 VW Bug |
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3479 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Kevv wrote: |
Just got my birth certificate and had a couple questions:
-If I supplied the engine serial number and it got placed on the cert is it the factory engine?
-Does anyone know what the A72 means?
Thanks for the help.
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Wow, is the museum not really doing any error checks? 1303s were not built until August 72. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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1966 Fiat 1500 Cabrio (with 1600 Twin cam)
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obus  Samba Member

Joined: March 08, 2001 Posts: 11671 Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
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redhot Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2005 Posts: 527
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:23 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Dear all,
Could anyone help with understanding how much information is possible to extract on a 1969/1970 or very late 1979 (Karmann)?
Would the latter e.g. have any Karmann specific information, does the body number plate matter or does it not provide any information beyond the chassis etc.? |
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Chippy Senior Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2023 Posts: 10 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:15 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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I read in this thread that the famous ‘birth certificate’ does not include engine number, but they will confirm whether original if you provide it.
Is the same true of gearbox type code and gearbox (serial) number?
And original carburettor type/model and modification number?
And whilst talking ‘numbers’ does anyone know what the stamped number on the steering box cover plate in the (beetle) spare wheel compartment represents? Mine reads:
3 over 0 over 275350.. |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71613 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 11:38 am Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Chippy Senior wrote: |
I read in this thread that the famous ‘birth certificate’ does not include engine number, but they will confirm whether original if you provide it.
Is the same true of gearbox type code and gearbox (serial) number?
And original carburettor type/model and modification number?
And whilst talking ‘numbers’ does anyone know what the stamped number on the steering box cover plate in the (beetle) spare wheel compartment represents? Mine reads:
3 over 0 over 275350.. |
I have never seen any other additional information other than the factory engine #.
I don't think the gearbox serial # is stored in the records.
The carburetor type/model can be determined based on the year and engine type if you want to ask in the appropriate Beetle Forum on the site.
I'm not sure what you mean by the steering box cover plate. Do you mean on the actual steering box or something else?
Again, I would ask in a Beetle Forum and include photos if possible. _________________ How to Post Photos
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3479 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: VW Birth Certificates |
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Kevv wrote: |
Just got my birth certificate and had a couple questions:
-If I supplied the engine serial number and it got placed on the cert is it the factory engine?
-Does anyone know what the A72 means?
Thanks for the help.
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You should write back to them and ask to have the error in this certificate fixed. 1303 was not introduced until August 1972. Your car should be a 1302 _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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