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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 4:44 pm    Post subject: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

My new to me baja bug and first WV is running fine at the moment. The prior owner who rebuilt the engine did an overall good job from what I can tell. One issue of concern which may be fine is the way the throttle return spring is mounted. See the picture. He had the spring hooked to the throttle cable with just a ziptie. I since added some airplane safety wire since that tie wrap is going to break at some point and I'd rather it not break while I'm driving. So, does this setup look ok (it works) or is there a better way for the spring to be connected?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

You're not the first, here's a topic with a better solution.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=617011
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
You're not the first, here's a topic with a better solution.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=617011


Thanks for the link, I'll read through that, looks like some good information.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

It's my personal opinion that the closer the spring is to it's job the better. Set up this way the throttle linkage's only job is to open the carbs, the spring closes them. That way there is no hysteresis error from linkage play as the linkage parts wear.

It doesn't take a very strong spring at this point either. In my case the stock springs on my Webers were adequate to close the throttle on their own but the peddle pressure was far too light. I found I got cramps in my right leg from holding my foot up all the time at cruise.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

Is that a plug wire routed behind the throttle linkage, between the pull arm and the fan shroud?

I’d move that somewhere else.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

Rob Combs wrote:
Is that a plug wire routed behind the throttle linkage, between the pull arm and the fan shroud?

I’d move that somewhere else.


Its the electrical wire going to the alternator. See the picture below.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

Yikes. Even worse. Please do be careful to not let that throttle cable saw its way through the b+ cable. Something will burn in two.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

My solution... Prefer more positive closure at carb body if there is a inkage failure...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

Rob Combs wrote:
Yikes. Even worse. Please do be careful to not let that throttle cable saw its way through the b+ cable. Something will burn in two.


The throttle cable is actually under that cable and really no way it can hit the cable. The prior owner did a good job with the engine overall. That said, I'll take your advise and keep an eye on that and make adjustments as necessary. This is my first VW and air cooled car so its a learning experience! I'm more familiar with Mustangs and Camaros.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

Dale M. wrote:
My solution... Prefer more positive closure at carb body if there is a inkage failure...

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Did you fab up those brackets under the air cleaner where you have the springs attached to? Or are those premade brackets?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

Pre made steel plates, But if your base plates don't have the "eyes" you can always fabricate something....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual weber 40 IDF carbs throttle return spring question Reply with quote

I just hooked my springs on the lip of the baseplate.
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