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rdk_1973
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 Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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| GüteAndTite wrote: |
If you have an updates or photos to add here, please 1950 ? PART #?
1951-1952 "T - Coffee Can" dual drilled end pieces, non serviceable gauze element . no oil bath PART #?
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Partnumber of the "T coffee can" air filter is 1 29 601 a according to my VW part list (sep 1950). It was used on all models, except for the Hubmüller, which was fitted with the 14 1 29 601 a.
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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Been digging around a researching some parts for a 66 beetle I am getting revived. Car has not seen the road since the mid 80's. Not the original engine or anything, but I figured I might as well make it look somewhat correct.
Car came with the later air cleaner pictured, and a neighbor gave me the other one. Production dates are less than a year apart, and the only difference I can find is the sticker placement of the later one.
This one has the decal located on top of the snout...
And this one (earlier production) has the decal located on the base of the cleaner itself.
Neither are correct for a mid-year production 66 export beetle, but I figured they might as well fit into the documentation in this thread. In fact, I had no clue what the 66 bug actually used, until I found it in here. The Samba is the greatest research tool for a VW hobbyist.
I'll run the later one for now, and seek out a functional "correct" version in due time. I might even have one in the junk pile, but it is buried deep under snow currently.
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bnam
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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| herbie1200 wrote: |
I post a couple of photos of a very strange (for me) situation.
I realized I had 2 air filters exteriorilly identical but different inside.
The main difference is, in the lower part, the vertical pipe size and shape.
On the small one the pipe is narrower and has an edge to seat an oring.
On the larger one the pipe is bigger and no edge.
On my stock 1200 the bigger gives the same performance but adds a sort of audible "scream" at 2500-3000 rpm.
The narrower sounds a bit quiter.
I did not found that evidence in this thread... are perhaps those filters only for the italian market?
p.s. don't care for wiring from filter, I'm testing a solenoid to governate flap action depending on temperature. |
Are there date stampings on the filters? While most of the pics here tend to be of US market filters, Europe continued to have 1200s and filters for those engines were different I think than the filters of the 1300 and 1600 engines of the same years.
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Berf
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| Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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1961 Knecht air cleaner:
1964 Knecht air cleaner:
Drawing of the flap bearing:
Here are some pictures of my two 40 hp Beetle Knecht air cleaners. The one for the 1964 engine has a date stamped in the flap, while the one for the 1961 doesn't appear to have a date stamp. Also here is a drawing of the elusive flap bearing. I plan on having my son 3D print it using nylon material for a test. I'm not sure about the 6mm hub diameter; the other dimensions are pretty close. Now to find a flap assembly that actually needs a new bearing for a test fit. I actually had very good luck 3D printing a new horn ring insulator for my 1961, but it took a couple tries to get it perfect. |
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esde
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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| GüteAndTite wrote: |
54-58 Mann 2-clip air cleaner, 111 129 611A
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So, does anybody know where I can get the decal for the top of this air cleaner?
Is it the same as the decal on the top of the more cone shaped 58 to 60 air cleaner?
I would think that the curve would be different, but the decal on the 54 to 56 style air cleaner doesn’t look like it matches the air cleaner housing very well
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OldSchoolVW's
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 9:35 am Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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| esde wrote: |
So, does anybody know where I can get the decal for the top of this air cleaner?
Is it the same as the decal on the top of the more cone shaped 58 to 60 air cleaner?
I would think that the curve would be different, but the decal on the 54 to 56 style air cleaner doesn’t look like it matches the air cleaner housing very well |
WCM: https://www.westcoastmetric.com/i-22968186-sticker...0SgF0wFa_W
Appears to be the one for '53 - '66. The wrinkled appearance of the one in the photos may have been due to positioning or distortion caused by heat/age.
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