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brc0703 Samba Member

Joined: May 24, 2010 Posts: 276 Location: Antioch, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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still has a tiny bit of movement rocking the wheel but not nearly as much as when i started.. using a bit of locktite 660 (i think) for slip fittings helped a little, even if its just some false hope..
but been a couple weeks and that loud clanky sound is gone.. mission complete lol..
thanks again guys for the help
just to share another issue.. today i jacked up the front by the little mount under the driver jam and noticed from inside that the body lifted off the pan about 2"
been driving around for 6 years with only the 13mm pan/body bolts and the 2 rear 17mm..
the 4 front 17mm pan bolts were MIA and the 2 17mm under the tank were loose... hopefully fixing these will make it feel a little more rigid and not like im in a hover craft |
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Blue69Baja Samba Member

Joined: September 04, 2008 Posts: 1115 Location: Fair Oaks
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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brc0703 wrote: |
still has a tiny bit of movement rocking the wheel but not nearly as much as when i started.. using a bit of locktite 660 (i think) for slip fittings helped a little, even if its just some false hope..
but been a couple weeks and that loud clanky sound is gone.. mission complete lol..
thanks again guys for the help
just to share another issue.. today i jacked up the front by the little mount under the driver jam and noticed from inside that the body lifted off the pan about 2"
been driving around for 6 years with only the 13mm pan/body bolts and the 2 rear 17mm..
the 4 front 17mm pan bolts were MIA and the 2 17mm under the tank were loose... hopefully fixing these will make it feel a little more rigid and not like im in a hover craft |
Rocking or in and out movement?
Someone must have been screwing around with screws
Glad your happy with the work you have done.
Jim _________________ 69 Baja with a 1914...
72 Super 100% orig...W/ factory air... 56,000mi
Even the spare is original.. |
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evilphoton Samba Member

Joined: March 16, 2012 Posts: 394 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: How much rear wheel bearing play is ok? |
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there is a bar in the emergency brake wheel assembly that goes from the front shoe to the rear shoe.. that bar needs to be clipped to the spring that runs just below (or above, can't remember) it... or it will chatter like the dickens and resonate all through the back of the car like a couple open end wrenches being clanked together. I've never seen a loose wheel bearing make any noise other than a growl when they're shot.
if the noise is there, tug the emergency brake lever and see if the noise goes away
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my rear wheels both rock a little bit so i completely dissembled both rear hubs checked everything and didnt find any scoring or pitting but the driver side outer bearing was a slip in fit.. doesnt have any play but the outer race spins in the hub.. i regreased the bearings and reassembled and still have about .012 of play.. its really annoying hitting a bump and clankityclankity echos from the back of the car.. kinda sounds like 4 people all smacking 2 open end wrenches together at the same time |
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A pair of Kadrons
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brc0703 Samba Member

Joined: May 24, 2010 Posts: 276 Location: Antioch, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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ok i take back what i said.. after very few miles the wheels are loose again..
i pulled the drum and looked at it closely as i wiggled the axle stub and there is minor movement in the outer bearing.. its a new bearing but seems the inner race is secure on the shaft and the outer in the hub so the bearings or contacting surfaces have to be worn i guess.. im gona try not to stress on it and get to it when im not mad at it
im so ready to be done with this..
i need to get full coverage and some dynamite
oh and i did think of that e brake spacer causing the rattle at first and made this spring washer thing
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clockworkbox Samba Member

Joined: July 12, 2020 Posts: 443 Location: Williamsport, PA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 4:38 am Post subject: Re: How much rear wheel bearing play is ok? |
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I'm posting here rather than start a new thread and hopefully this helps someone with this issue. I was going nuts trying to figure out the issue I had with radial play after rebuilding my trailing arms with new FAG bearings, spacers, seals and VW stub axles in excellent condition. I checked everything I could find on these message boards to find a solution; the axle nut was properly torqued with a torque multiplier (amazing tool btw), the bearings fit tightly in the housings, the axles were in good shape, all spacers were present and properly oriented, and the bearings were new. I had another set of rebuilt trailing arms from part of a deal I had made but the PO who built them had put the swing axle washer/spacer and o-ring on the axle so I was not super confident in the build quality and decided to go with my own. After installing, I found that I had enough radial play that there was an audible clunk when moving the axle from side to side. There was no axial play however. Using the new parts from the spare trailing arm, I tried switching spacers, axle, and even the axle nut with no change. What it ended up being is play in the inner race of the outer roller bearing. I swapped races and the issue resolved. The weird thing is that both bearings are new FAG bearings with the same part number. Anyway, if someone has the issue with radial play in their rear axle bearings, this is another thing to check. _________________ '69 Beetle (pieces)
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Blue69Baja Samba Member

Joined: September 04, 2008 Posts: 1115 Location: Fair Oaks
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2025 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: How much rear wheel bearing play is ok? |
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clockworkbox wrote: |
I'm posting here rather than start a new thread and hopefully this helps someone with this issue. I was going nuts trying to figure out the issue I had with radial play after rebuilding my trailing arms with new FAG bearings, spacers, seals and VW stub axles in excellent condition. I checked everything I could find on these message boards to find a solution; the axle nut was properly torqued with a torque multiplier (amazing tool btw), the bearings fit tightly in the housings, the axles were in good shape, all spacers were present and properly oriented, and the bearings were new. I had another set of rebuilt trailing arms from part of a deal I had made but the PO who built them had put the swing axle washer/spacer and o-ring on the axle so I was not super confident in the build quality and decided to go with my own. After installing, I found that I had enough radial play that there was an audible clunk when moving the axle from side to side. There was no axial play however. Using the new parts from the spare trailing arm, I tried switching spacers, axle, and even the axle nut with no change. What it ended up being is play in the inner race of the outer roller bearing. I swapped races and the issue resolved. The weird thing is that both bearings are new FAG bearings with the same part number. Anyway, if someone has the issue with radial play in their rear axle bearings, this is another thing to check. |
Great that you offered more input regarding this issue.
Bad parts are god awful and has been going on for a few years.
Jim. _________________ 69 Baja with a 1914...
72 Super 100% orig...W/ factory air... 56,000mi
Even the spare is original.. |
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