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71StandardReduction
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 Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:06 pm Post subject: Me 1964 pan rail refresh. |
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Never did make a thread for the ugly duckling I impulse bought.
Another bastard creation of which roams the earth with unknown origins.
We all know the story, dune buggy r cool. × however many owners... sigh.
Anywho... it eventually made it's way to me.... poor thing....
Chassis # shows to be a 64 model.
I moved... and uh... bought that 66 baja  so it's just been sitting and I'm really really trying to motivate myself to get it back goin 
Here be what we started with
And here be it sitting at me work yard.... where it's been since I moved. 
So... for motivation.... I did the most logical thing I could think of... impulse bought something that it really doesn't need yet... because I wanted to know how they would look on there. 
Some tractor tires, woohoo
And uh, well... that's how they would look on there.
Been wanting to try a set of those for some years now.
Measured wheel width was 9", I squished them on the 15x8's, seem to fit the dimensions of everything decently.
They advertised at 44lbs and the shipping weight actually showed 88lbs for the pair so must be accurate. For those who don't know, a 31x10.50r15 weighs in usually from 40 to 50lbs.
So... maybe I'll be working on it some more soon 
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oprn
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Me 1964 pan rail refresh. |
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I like them a lot!
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BFB
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Me 1964 pan rail refresh. |
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Love the look of buggys with those V tread terra tires. I’d be really surprised if they only weighed 44lbs, most LT tires that size are at least 50 and up to almost 70lbs when you got into 12.50’s / 13” wide, and those V treads that ive seen are typically 10- 12 ply’s.
The guys on woodsbuggy.com used to cut them down to the cords and still had plenty of rubber to hold up off-roading
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71StandardReduction
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Me 1964 pan rail refresh. |
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Me too, gives em that sweet vintage look of the old days.
These are labeled as 6 ply. I'm really not sure wtf they are marketed for.
There was an 8 ply variant available but ofcourse it weighed more which was a turn off for me.
The more common 31x15.50-15 terra / v tread are marketed for small tractors and ditch witches (I've seen both types of machines with that size) and are unreasonably heavy. Also like you said, they are usually 10/12 ply.
Aaaand I already had the 8 wide wheels and didn't want to buy 10 wides for larger & wider tires.
 I'm a friggin tire nerd.
Speaking of, I need to mount the engine and do some measuring to see how tall of a front tire i need. Searching around at the 7.60-15 and 9.5-15 5 ribs... trying to focus on floatation. The land out here is kind of deceptive... Will be driving along a nice patch of green forestry and start noticing water flinging off the tires... then it's too late for the pizza cutters.
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BFB
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Me 1964 pan rail refresh. |
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Yeh your right, i was thinking of the 31 15.5’s …
As far as the fronts, it seems to mere theres alot more options and the price drops considerably if you can run 16” wheels. One of my rails i run motorcycle tires on the front, in order to get a decent tire size wise and to fit a 15” wheel , i had to get rear motorcycle tires. Everything else was too skinny but if i would run a 16” or 17” front wheel thatd open up more options.
Same rail i run dirt track tires on the rear, SUPER light weight but not so good offroad which is ok because it’s mostly for street and back country roads, gravel and dirt when i find them.
Another rail i have has 32” 10.5x15 side by side tires, theyre pretty light in comparison to LT tires and im sure will do good offroad, too bad they dont make side by side tires any wider though. Might have to go back to the 60’s and start running duals! Haha. All joking aside I’ve always liked that look though
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Me 1964 pan rail refresh. |
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nice!
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ORANGECRUSHer
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Me 1964 pan rail refresh. |
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Well that was quick!
Another project off the streets.  gj
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oprn
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2025 4:33 am Post subject: Re: Me 1964 pan rail refresh. |
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Nice! Wear some face protection because that tread pattern is going to throw some crap at you! My 5 rib implement tires are bad enough.
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