Engine/Transmission removed where and how would you start?

[SGKent]

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2691230

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2692502
and take it to a local shop to be cleaned and tested. repaired if needed, or do what BusDaddy suggested.
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[Bnanwel]

Do yourself or someone a future favor. Don’t put the bottom screws back in the firewall after you replace the tank. It makes it much easier if you have to go in again.
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[SGKent]

On a 1977 it is easy to get to the bottom screws when the bus is on stands.
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[poundman]

[poundman]

After doing more research on tanks and senders. Here is what I understand and don't understand.

It appears my 72 has a unique tank only used for about 1.5 years 72 and part of 73. It is part number 211 201 075 H and has the barrel type sender that bolts in. 68-71 had barrel also. Later it was changed to float style used in bugs and is screw in top.

Questions I have.

I assume the 68-71 does not have the middle top filler vent? What about the other vents on each side? If get one of those I would need to retro fit the filler vent?

My fuel gauge works with barrel type senders, if retro fit a 73-74 (non FI), I will need to change my fuel gauge or put some adapter to make it work. I would still need to retro fit the top filler vent?

Are the barrel senders better than the floats? Or opposite?

Final question, how did the other years deal with filler vents?

So, i think my choice is:

1. Buy used tank and get it cleaned and fingers crossed. Seems like a crap shoot. It is still a 50 year old tank.
2. Buy the WW version and retro fit the filler vent. I assume WW has decent quality. The picture on there site actually appears to have the filler vent, I just can't see the 1 on each side that crosses over.

I am 100% going to cut an access port for sender for future. Based on the lottery system with senders I have been reading about on samba. I also want to find a charcoal canister solution for the venting. It is missing on my bus.
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[busdaddy]

The gas filler door moved aft in 72, it allows the sliding door to open fully with the nozzle in the neck. The 71 tank has all the other fittings, it just needs that extra larger one at the top middle to work with the long skinny filler tube used in 72/73.
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[poundman]

I got my nose cone back from the machine shop today. They milled it 1mm per the instructions from Weddle. I installed the new metal ball joint also. I put a light coat of gasket maker between the transmission body and the thrust plate. Then I put a paper gasket between thrust plate and nose cone. The shifting seems very stiff and I am wondering if I should remove the paper gasket or if that is just the new ball joint. Maybe it was to loose before with the ball joint, I am not sure what is normal. Hard to tell without a proper shifter in the bus. Instructions for thrust plate says to don't need any paper gasket. I can't see how .3mm of paper would make that big of difference, but if I take apart I might leave out to test.

Also, I had to ream the new bushing I installed to get the shift rod back in.
Going to do some more shift testing.

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Restoring a 1972 Bay Window Bus that has not be registered for the road since 1981.
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[SGKent]

looks normal to me. Did the transmission hang on the shift rod at any time when you worked on it?

What kind of shifter do you have?
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[Bnanwel]

Test shifting by hand at the nosecone? Even a sloppy one is pretty stiff without the leverage of the shifter, just saying.
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[soissisc]

When I opened mine up, the small end of the pin had a lot of slop in the U shaped bracket. I ended up replacing the U shaped bracket.

That might be something to check.
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[poundman]

[poundman]

[SGKent]

yes, it is very hard to shift without the shifter. That is normal.
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[poundman]

Had my flywheel resurfaced and re-installed today. Now I am trying to replace the seal in the front behind the fan hub. How do I get this hub off? Bentley mentions a special tool. Can I use some time of puller?

Thanks

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Restoring a 1972 Bay Window Bus that has not be registered for the road since 1981.
Sugar Land, Texas

[SGKent]

use can use a really big thick washer from the big box store, cut it and slide it behind. Then the bolts turn in on it and press the hub off. There is a plate steel method below too. The hub may be on really tight so do not cheap out on the steel used or the case will be damaged. Be SURE to replace the o-ring on the back of that hub / nose of the crankshaft while it is apart or it will leak.

[poundman]

Thanks for the ideas. I assume that the bolt will be enough to draw the hub back on the shaft. I have not send any pictures on where the o-ring fits in. Maybe once I get apart I will know better. I can take the seal to the hardware store to find the cap and maybe even a washer or at least some flat stock.

Maybe something like this would work, cut down

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-BP-.../100375300

Is there another o-ring on the back side of the fan between the fan and hub?
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Sugar Land, Texas

[SGKent]

between the crank and hub 021 119 125 A

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8004130
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[poundman]

[SGKent]

[lil-jinx]

the hub is mounted on a tapered shaft it should pop off and go back on fairly easy, once it breaks loose.
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