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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

I tried ordering one a few weeks back, Napa online wouldn't let me order it. I went in to my local store, no dice, said it's no longer available to my area (SnoCAL)?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

@calsurf-Same situation here in Georgia. No NAPA store in my area has it, whether I try to get it from the web site or call multiple stores in my area. All of them that I call don't seem interested in finding one, or letting me know if/when they're available again.

At this point I'm kinda over it. I know it's a good price (even with the price increase) but I'm fed up with their lack of availability. Worse than trying to source Taylor Swift concert tickets!

I've been looking at Ironman 4x4 awnings as a solution. I've seen a couple of YouTubers use them, and they seem to be of good quality for a price point between the NAPA awning and an ARB awning.

https://ironman4x4america.com/camping/awnings-rooms/instant-straight-awnings/
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

It looks exactly like the same awning.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

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Here's a pic of how the NAPA awning skimps on aluminum.
ARB skimped on rivets back in 2014, but at some point they changed from rivets to bolts. If you have the old single-rivet you should add more rivets. I added 3 rivets to each one (on each side of the gutter-mounts)

Maybe NAPA is out of stock because a lot of people had to buy new units for 2023 Van season?
Which is not ill-logic, seeing as they cost about 1/3 of ARB, how long will it take to go thru 3 NAPA awnings?
In some ways, this is valid cost-savings.
Except for the waste of materials.
And if you're super-careful about wind and stuff.
Or maybe you Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad seldom un-furl it. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

But the biggie is.....
If my awning was a wadded up twisted mess on the side of the van, during a week-long trip..... I'd be wishing I chose the ARB.
The ARB above is 2014, 9 years old (now with 8 rivets where you see two)

I've had the ARB out in some fierce winds.
But, you do have to be careful and tie it down properly etc.
Stakes wiggle loose, you have to tie it to bushes etc if it's risk of wind.
Much wiser to roll up if there's a risk of wind or un-attended.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

Thanks for those comparative pictures, Sodo.

It's great to actually see the difference between the parts. It helps people to consider if the very flimsy cheaper part is worth it, even at the low price.
But aren't they obsolete from Napa anyway?

Edit: Re-reading some recent posts, I guess they still appear to be available.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

I wanted to report that these awnings are still available.
I tried to order online, but on the NAPA website I saw the “call your store for availability”. This was 2 weeks ago. I called, spoke with someone who ordered it for me. I was told it would be a few days which ended up being right at 2 weeks. That was not a problem as I’ve had lots of other issues to tend to. We’ll see how well this all works out.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2023 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

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Installation was pretty straightforward using the MaxiTrac provided stainless hardware. I used the North Westy stainless bracket and followed suite with revolution337’s earlier post. I also cut about 4mm off of the bolts to clear the pop top, though that may not have been necessary.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2023 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

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I also cut about 4mm off of the bolts to clear the pop top, though that may not have been necessary.


Its a safety.
The poptop hinge pivots are real sloppy side-to-side.
Push on it left/right sometime when the top is going up or down
(before the canvas is tight) that hinge can flop around.
If you pop the top on an incline with the awning mounts on the downhill side the poptop can slop over into the bolts effing-up your poptop seal.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2023 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

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If you pop the top on an incline with the awning mounts on the downhill side the poptop can slop over into the bolts effing-up your poptop seal.


^ Yup happened to me. Trim the bolts. If you don't have a brushless cordless dremel I highly recommend one.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2023 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

69aircooled wrote:

I also cut about 4mm off of the bolts to clear the pop top, though that may not have been necessary.


As others have said, those bolts can tear up the seal pretty easy. Get some SS button head bolts and Jam nuts and it won't be a problem.

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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2023 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

I didn’t think about the slop in the opening and closing so much, especially on an inclined camping spot. The button head screws would seem better suited for this. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192325011323?_trkparms=am...p_homepage

I found the awning on ebay.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

4Gears4Tires wrote:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192325011323?_trkparms=am...p_homepage

I found the awning on ebay.


That isn't the NAPA awning, looks more like the Yescom one from Walmart
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

It looks excessively similar to the NAPA owning I own. The only things I noticed different are that the end caps allow an ARB Add a Room to be slid in without removal, which is nice, and that the pins now use bolts. Which could be due to different manufacturing runs with these cheap awnings.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

These seem to be available again. Just ordered from a Napa in San Diego. And they're 20% off right now.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

I bought this, with the RMW mounting brackets which with a tiny mod work fantastic. Just wanted to note this guy's YouTube videos which are Arb-specific but work for the NAPA one as well. He's got a great demo for how to put it up/take it down yourself but also built some additional leg's out of painting extensions.

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5PTTWXx63I

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JozB9Yu_qGM

For $40 I feel like these really add some stability to the awning. Also the cam locks he references are game changers. Worth watching both of these videos. Here are the reinforcements I built:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

Got my RMW awning brackets from Van Cafe today.
Does anyone have a pic of how they mounted the NAPA awning onto the brackets on their poptop? Do I need to use the L brackets that came with the NAPA for height? Or does the awning frame mount directly onto the RMW bracket resting on the gutter? A pic of the awning attached to the bracket on the gutter would be most helpful. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

deadaheadub wrote:
Got my RMW awning brackets from Van Cafe today.
Does anyone have a pic of how they mounted the NAPA awning onto the brackets on their poptop? Do I need to use the L brackets that came with the NAPA for height? Or does the awning frame mount directly onto the RMW bracket resting on the gutter? A pic of the awning attached to the bracket on the gutter would be most helpful. Thanks!


Take a look at my post on page 13. If you need more pictures. Let me know

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...;start=240
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

Xevin wrote:
deadaheadub wrote:
Got my RMW awning brackets from Van Cafe today.
Does anyone have a pic of how they mounted the NAPA awning onto the brackets on their poptop? Do I need to use the L brackets that came with the NAPA for height? Or does the awning frame mount directly onto the RMW bracket resting on the gutter? A pic of the awning attached to the bracket on the gutter would be most helpful. Thanks!


Take a look at my post on page 13. If you need more pictures. Let me know

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...;start=240


So that pic is looking down from the perspective of the poptop? Just 3 holes drilled into the NAPA frame, attached directly to the top of the RMW bracket, do I have that right?

Did you NOT drill a hole to bolt the bottom part of the bracket into the pillars? I would like to not drill.

Did you use the VHB tape as some have suggested?
Do you use the tape everywhere the bracket contacts the van, in the gutter and on the pillar side?

I know, a lot of little detail questions.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: $99 NAPA Awning- Copy of ARB? Reply with quote

deadaheadub wrote:
Xevin wrote:
deadaheadub wrote:
Got my RMW awning brackets from Van Cafe today.
Does anyone have a pic of how they mounted the NAPA awning onto the brackets on their poptop? Do I need to use the L brackets that came with the NAPA for height? Or does the awning frame mount directly onto the RMW bracket resting on the gutter? A pic of the awning attached to the bracket on the gutter would be most helpful. Thanks!


Take a look at my post on page 13. If you need more pictures. Let me know

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...;start=240


So that pic is looking down from the perspective of the poptop? Just 3 holes drilled into the NAPA frame, attached directly to the top of the RMW bracket, do I have that right?

Did you NOT drill a hole to bolt the bottom part of the bracket into the pillars? I would like to not drill.

Did you use the VHB tape as some have suggested?
Do you use the tape everywhere the bracket contacts the van, in the gutter and on the pillar side?

I know, a lot of little detail questions.
Thank you


Only hole drilled is the single bolt on the RMW bracket. See how it is offset from the two holes on each side of it? Just a tad higher. A punch is your friend before you drill that hole. No need to drill anything in the Napa frame. The jam nuts slide into the track and then tighten down. I found an allen head easy to fit a wrench down in there.

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I used the tape wherever it touched the paint of the van. Acorn nut for covering exposed threads after the fastening nut, to prevent snags.

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No holes in to pillars for me. Thats your call. If I did a bunch of off road roads. I probably would. But do research this thread for excellent guy line examples.
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