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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member

Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2546 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:39 am Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port |
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AlmostHeavenWV_VW wrote: |
vamram wrote: |
AlmostHeavenWV_VW wrote: |
Can you guys check tach/dwell, ignition voltage, generator ouput, VR input,system voltage & start the car without getting up from your chair?
I can with my control box for the VW Diagnostic Block
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No and HOLY SH1&+ is that for real??  |
Yep.
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Nice job. I now regret removing my diagnostic block,years ago. _________________ Parts for sale https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?username=APPLEGREENVW
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AlmostHeavenWV_VW Samba Member

Joined: October 12, 2017 Posts: 1968 Location: WV
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:42 am Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port |
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KTPhil wrote: |
meranda wrote: |
I know his post is going off the rails a bit but pin 8 is connected to the centre cell of the 12 Volt battery. My question is did they use special batteries with a 6Volt tap? |
How did it measure fluid level? Was it a float inside with a contact (doubt it)? Or maybe just a wire that either contacted the fluid if the right level, or read open if it was low? |
Just saw this KTPhil,
As I understand it, there was a probe which would contact the fluid and register it as a (1-"fluid level okay") or a (0- "fluid level not okay") on the diagnostic computer to say if the battery needed water added or not. _________________ 1973 Standard Beetle
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NotTooSerious Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2019 Posts: 12 Location: Madison, WI
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:05 am Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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Thanks so much for the pics of the switches.
And it is way above and beyond making a diagram. Wow.
Even if someone go previously rid of their port, theoretically they could make their own "port" if they got creative with wiring. |
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deanbradford Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2013 Posts: 37 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:45 am Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port |
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AlmostHeavenWV_VW wrote: |
Can you guys check tach/dwell, ignition voltage, generator ouput, VR input,system voltage & start the car without getting up from your chair?
I can with my control box for the VW Diagnostic Block
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This is great AlmostHeavenWV. How did you connect to the diagnostics socket? do you have a picture?
many thanks
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3457 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:16 am Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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I'm sure a male plug could be 3d printed. And I'm sure someone could figure out how to send all that data to be displayed on an LCD screen either in the car or on an external consol. Use one of the empty pin positions for oil pressure and temp sensors, CHT, etc...
Too bad my 71 came without a plug from the factory. I was planning to get the similar BMW console (see my post from many years ago) for my 2002Tii, but we decided to move and I had to sell that car.
Byas _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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1966 Fiat 1500 Cabrio (with 1600 Twin cam)
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33047 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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My 1971 Super Convertible (built March 1971), and owned by me since 1976 (second owner) has no diagnostic block but does have a flat area for one apparently for future models.
_________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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deanbradford Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2013 Posts: 37 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:37 am Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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On the picture above showing the switches. To measure VR volts does the 15 terminal on this diagram on the left side need to be switched on too together with the Generator switch 14 ? |
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talljordan Samba Member

Joined: January 10, 2012 Posts: 1075 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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Several years in the making, I have completed a reproduction of the diagnostic test port made by VW. It has a lot of the original functionality, but not all (namely, its missing compression testing). Fully my own design including 3D files, electronics, and code.
I believe this is the only one in the world capable of testing the lights and RPM.
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_________________ 1972 Super Beetle, Parked until adequate restoration funding is acquired in restoration!
Wanted: Male computer diagnostic plug end |
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vamram  Samba Member

Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7996 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:47 am Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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Very cool, Jordan! Remind me not to butcher the diagnostic plug on my next Super project!!!
Do you plan on making more of these to sell? Is it able to read what timing is set to? _________________ "Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition
to put moral chains upon their own appetites. -Edmund Burke
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'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11786 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:26 am Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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Amazing, Jordan!
You might want to check into producing.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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jinx758 Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2014 Posts: 1022 Location: half a bubble from plumb
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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VERY impressive !
I am officially humbled, wouldn't even know where to begin. lol
I love how your RPMs started around 1400 & settled to about 850 +/-. Showing fast idle cam & choke are set right & not having to fiddle with gas pedal, as it should be.
Well done.
Many would buy if available ... stay safe
jinx _________________ " It's not valuable unless you learn something from an experience. " Henry Ford
It's not unlike the same difference ...
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talljordan Samba Member

Joined: January 10, 2012 Posts: 1075 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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Thank you all.
It isn't capable of determining timing, my vehicle does not have a TDC sensor or spark plug wire sensors, so I couldn't build that functionality. I get the tach signal off the coil -.
I am considering producing them, but I'm not sure the price point would be attractive. There's at least $50-80 of materials in it, and it also took several hours to splice all the wires together. The price point would probably have to be well over $100.
Perhaps a version that only does the tach and starting/stopping the engine would be cheaper and more feasible. Ill give it some thought. _________________ 1972 Super Beetle, Parked until adequate restoration funding is acquired in restoration!
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11786 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: VW Dealership Diagnostic Plug Block Port Socket |
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Jordan, you'd have to charge a minimum of $250 USD to make it worth your while. Your labor needs to be factored in And that's if you can get the materials at a lesser, wholesale, cost. If you could figure a way for it to also time the engine, which would make it pretty much all-in-one, another $50 would not be asking too much, compared to all the separate devices you'd need to accomplish the same thing.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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