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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2025 8:09 pm    Post subject: Brush netting? Reply with quote

First, let me say that I do not race and have no desire to race (Not sanctioned anyway!) so the issue of race organizations approval certifications and anything related to that is unimportant to me.

I run around with my Rat Rod Trail Rail on old mining trails and things like that. Most of them are overgrown with all kinds of Southern Arizona desert brush. I installed safety nets. They were new but expired "debris safety nets" for sanctioned car races. They worked ok but I had to "adjust" them (with big scissors) to fit properly plus the holes in the netting are to big. That's the real problem. The holes are big enough to allow sticks to poke thru. Getting slapped in the face with a Creosote bush is bad enough but getting stabbed in the eyeball is worse.

It seems all car safety, volley ball, cargo, restraint, etc. netting has holes that are to big...except for Trampoline enclosure safety netting. It has little holes I guess to keep fingers, noses and ears for getting caught. I have the capability to make the right size and shape netting from it but have a couple of questions.

I ordered a section of it for experimental purposes. It seems pretty tough to punctures and tears. Has anybody ever tried using it for safety netting on an off road play car? Does anybody have any experience with it as far as it's intended purpose on a trampoline? Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

Any netting is going to have holes and sticks or brush that wants to find you will find the holes no matter how small.... Suggest helmet with face shield to protect face, as for the rest of your body, it will eventually heal....
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

about the only thing that will work and you can still see though would be Hardware Cloth, 1/2 inch 24in x 100 ft roll
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

I concur with Dale M.

I would not trust trampoline netting to repel even small sticks at any sort of appreciable speed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

Sure, sticks will find a way in but I'm going to minimize the odds. Wearing a helmet and face shield is not an option for me here in the summer in Southern Arizona. There's not enough airflow inside to stay cool.

So I guess nobody has any hands on experience with this type of netting? It seems very tough and resistant to punctures. Like I said, I got a piece of it for experiments and have been stabbing it with sticks for two days. The only time it goes thru, is when I stab and work at the same spot for a minute or cut a sharp spear point on the tip.

It's very close grain for a netting. Maybe 1mm holes. It's see thru like dark window tint but not real dark like limo tint. It doesn't stretch at all. I think it will work fine for what I need.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

I have a fair bit of experience with it. Stabbing it by hand doesn’t correlate well to hitting it at speed.

I’d run (I should say, I do run) a Parker Pumper with their ice box. It pumps cold air into my helmet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

4 kids and 2 trampolines. Don't waste your money. It may contain a child., but it won't stop sticks from poking your eye out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

What goes bad with it? Is it sun rot or what? I have compared it with the safety netting that it's replacing and it seems to be similar in strength if maybe a bit stronger. Of course, I have no scientific way of measuring it and the old netting is ...well...older.

The one place where it absolutely would fail, is stopping hot or burning parts from coming thru. It melts. Probably not good in a fire.

I'm going to try it. It won't be worse than what it's replacing and will in fact look better, at least for a while. We shall see. It may fail and I'll just buy race car nets and cut them to size or it may work great and be a good option for play cars. We shall see. I'll post updates with photo's.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

See if you can find some kind of screening or netting made of kevlar?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

How about metal screens from something like "fireplace screens", usually 1/8 to 3/16 mesh that you can probably see through pretty good but will stop things larger than a mosquito....
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

racecougar wrote:

I’d run (I should say, I do run) a Parker Pumper with their ice box. It pumps cold air into my helmet.


I also run something similar to the Parker Pumper (No icebox) with my helmet in 100 degree plus weather and surprisingly it keeps me cool. I always wear a helmet whether the law requires it or not.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

Dale M. wrote:
How about metal screens from something like "fireplace screens", usually 1/8 to 3/16 mesh that you can probably see through pretty good but will stop things larger than a mosquito....


Uhhmm thanks but no. It's a ride for exploring the off road not battling zombies. It really needs to be something that rolls up out of the way.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

Multi69s wrote:
racecougar wrote:

I’d run (I should say, I do run) a Parker Pumper with their ice box. It pumps cold air into my helmet.


I also run something similar to the Parker Pumper (No icebox) with my helmet in 100 degree plus weather and surprisingly it keeps me cool. I always wear a helmet whether the law requires it or not.


Thanks but I'll have to pass on the helmet in my Rail. Besides, my Wife will wear one when we're on the motorcyle but absolutely will not wear one in the Rail.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

Perhaps, something like this side by side roll cage netting will keep the brush and prickly things out of your car.
https://www.kemimoto.com/products/roll-cage-side-w...D9EALw_wcB
Only $59.99 seems like a deal to keep your eyeballs intact.

EDIT, and another that is along the lines of the trampoline netting idea.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rjs-10000303?sr...mkTNyGy0Ek
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

67rustavenger wrote:
Perhaps, something like this side by side roll cage netting will keep the brush and prickly things out of your car.
https://www.kemimoto.com/products/roll-cage-side-w...D9EALw_wcB
Only $59.99 seems like a deal to keep your eyeballs intact.

EDIT, and another that is along the lines of the trampoline netting idea.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rjs-10000303?sr...mkTNyGy0Ek

The first one is an identical match for trampoline netting like what I have. The second ones holes are way bigger than this netting. The holes in this stuff is about one millimeter.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

Netting is just to mitigate the chances of a stick poking your eye out. They are by far not perfect. I was considering netting myself for my rail. Missouri brush is different though I am sure.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

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Netting is just to mitigate the chances of a stick poking your eye out. They are by far not perfect. I was considering netting myself for my rail. Missouri brush is different though I am sure.


The netting keeps stuff like Cholla cactus from flying off the front tire and impaling you or a Joshua Tree slapping you across the face or a Creosote Bush branch from going up your nose but it does more than that. Mine kept a dog from biting me in the arm and kept a Gila Monster from getting a ride in my lap. They are not pretty from six inches away.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

This may require some imagination and fabricating skils, but have you considered making a louvered panel with plexiglass?

If they overlapped but had space between them, you would pretty much repel anything and still retain the airflow. Plus you would be able to see thru it. You might even be able to limit it to just a few louvers at the front edge. Kinda like a bug deflector but for plants.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

ORANGECRUSHer wrote:
This may require some imagination and fabricating skils, but have you considered making a louvered panel with plexiglass?

If they overlapped but had space between them, you would pretty much repel anything and still retain the airflow. Plus you would be able to see thru it. You might even be able to limit it to just a few louvers at the front edge. Kinda like a bug deflector but for plants.


heh heh heh. I saw a spaghetti end of the world movie many years ago that had louvered panels over the windows on their battle car. Bullets bounced off. Thanks but I'll stick with my netting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Brush netting? Reply with quote

Which netting did. You decide on?
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