Help getting the bloody vent window seal in my door frame

[LAGrunthaner]

This is the trouble area, has anyone cut the seal down to get it to fit in that slot between the latch tab?

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[npbusguy]

The trouble is not the seal, look at the frame itself. It appears that it has been "fixed" with bubble gum.

[BarryL]

[LAGrunthaner]

BarryL, sorry I missed this comment, and I don't understand what you mean by "It doesn't go in a slot there. It just lays outside the flap" as the rubber seal which fits into this slot appears to not sit down into the latch area as that is where the latch won't meet the metal tab. Should I sand down the seal where it slides to the 2 rivets are so it sits properly?

[BarryL]

You have so many situations going on with those that I'll try to break it down.

Forget what I said about, "It doesn't go in a slot there. It just lays outside the flap".

Let's label some things:
Driver side wing is the one in your last post and has a Nike Swoosh and the frame is not bent.

Passenger side wing is missing the Nike Swoosh and the bottom of the frame is bent down as shown in previous posts.

Driver side door window frame is the one in your last post and has a blob of weld or something in the corner of the aft part of the wing catch part as npbusguy called "bubblegum".

Passenger side window frame shown in previous will never shut right until you bend the wing's bottom up.


Ok, so, looking at the driver's side frame you either need to remove the goober and then try to get the rubber to seat all the way back to the vertical piece or cut the rubber off complimentary to the goober. You will have to cut the vertical seal as well as the surround seal's lower rear to accommodate the goober.

The vertical seal goes outside the bottom seal not inside as you have it in previous photos.

[junichi]

I wanted to add to this very helpful thread. Cornstarch to lubricate the seal worked great. The tip to use a bicycle tire tool is brilliant- used that for most of the install, along with a little plastic prying tool.

Indeed this is a struggle and an hour per side is to be expected for a first timer like me. You need to push the seal in pretty hard as you try to push the lip of the seal in to the “track” in the window frame. Sometimes you hear a little click as it moves in to place, not always. It can look in, but not be fully seated- notice the difference in these pics of portions in and not fully in, and the finished gaps to the door frame. I started on the outside and worked it in the best I could before moving to the inside. Focusing on one side allows you to insert the seal at an angle so you can push the lip in a bit easier, push in hard, then use the bike tire tool to get under the portion of rubber that sits outside the window frame, and push the lip in and try to hook it down in to place. I struggled the most with the bottom. I had to cut the slot for the upper window hinge- best to do that first as noted and test fit just the top. I made a slim rectangular hole going vertically to accommodate the vertical portion of the hinge, and to allow the portion above the hinge to lay flat. I first tried just a knife slit, but you have to cut a hole the thickness of the hinge. Hard to describe all this, but hopefully it helps. As other have said, start at the bottom in and around the curve. The vertical portion was the easiest.
Front not in all the way in some portions.

Bottom not in properly in the middle:

Better:

Complete- notice how little window frame shows now.

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[ted698]

Annoyingly, you just know deep inside that young Helga on the VW production line 60yrs ago could fit these in about 30 secs.... hahahahaha

[thom]

I just did this last weekend. I don't know who actually made the pieces I used - they were marked "Brasil" but there was a lot of excess flashing, and there was flashing across where the inner channel would go, so I had to trim all of that up before I could even try to fit it. I also spent a little bit of time gently sanding down the molding lines, but after about an hour I decided I didn't care any more.

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[junichi]

Anyone tried them and figure out how to install them? I have similar from C&C and I can’t get them to fit with the glass inside the vent wing latch- too tight!

Did the factory seal go on both sides where it sits inside the latch?
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[Lind]

[junichi]

Thanks for the tips! Was wondering about the stretch/extra length…good to know.
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[BonTonRoulet]

[junichi]

Thanks- will keep that in mind if I continue to struggle!
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[@Buswerx]

Those seals are great. That’s all we use in the shop. We just installed another set today,the 5th set this year so far. Zero issues

[junichi]

[junichi]

It worked! These C&C seals are tough to install but I would recommend them. Definitely hard to get in but after about 15-20 tries I got it pretty good with minimal stretching and minimal trimming required. Second one only took about 5 tries and is even better. It’s all technique. Technique in my previous post worked, combined with a little prying of the latch as suggested.
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