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iowegian
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I didn’t want it to look too new, rather like somebody found it under the backseat when doing the restoration. There’s at least two “mistakes” in it, possibly more.  |
What method did you use to age the paper? |
Water, tea, a glue stick and sock lint. |
The sock lint is a nice touch. |
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bobnorman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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OK just so there’s no misunderstandings, hyper-drive notwithstanding, I have modified my sticker to include this up front.
That should make it pretty clear that this is a replica and not an official document.
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bobnorman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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| I didn’t want it to look too new, rather like somebody found it under the backseat when doing the restoration. There’s at least two “mistakes” in it, possibly more. |
What method did you use to age the paper? |
Water, tea, a glue stick and sock lint. |
The sock lint is a nice touch. |
Well it was either that or belly button lint, and I didn’t think I had enough of that.
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obus
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iowegian
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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"Riveria" is most likely a variation of "Rivera"-----like Geraldo |
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bobnorman
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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"Riveria" is most likely a variation of "Rivera"-----like Geraldo |
Yeah there’s a few things wrong there, I don’t think hyperdrive is hyphenated either…
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MuzzcoVW
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:33 am Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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| bobnorman wrote: |
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| I didn’t want it to look too new, rather like somebody found it under the backseat when doing the restoration. There’s at least two “mistakes” in it, possibly more. |
What method did you use to age the paper? |
Water, tea, a glue stick and sock lint. |
I'll be stealing this idea! Sock lint- I LOVE it!!! LOL |
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Rome
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| Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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"Riveria" is most likely a variation of "Rivera"-----like Geraldo |
A variation made by a person who misspelled "Riviera". I've seen this mistake numerous times, sometimes when describing the VW accessory alloy rims. The Mediterranean coast in France is called the Riviera... And of course Buick's model.
The signature in the "window sticker" (formally known as the Monroney label, per the U.S. senator Mike Monroney from Oklahoma; and implemented into a federal requirement for the US auto industry per the Automobile Information Disclosure Act of 1958) is J Stuart Perkins. His office was at Volkswagen of America headquarters in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey from the early 1960's thru his retirement in 1977.
For his retirement, some of the VWoA VPs and the VW Dealer Council ordered a silver 1977 Beetle standard sedan to be built with all the factory accessories, and presented it to him. It was the very last officially built Beetle sedan officially imported into the USA. There was a photo of the group with Mr. Perkins in the Beetle in Mr. Bob Holbert's office at his VW dealer Holbert's in Warrington, PA which I saw at the vintage VW meet held there in Oct. 1988. Mr. Holbert was in the photo as part of the group. Mr. Perkins initially kept the Beetle at his home in Westchester County, New York. In the early 1990's it was displayed outdoors at the Vintage VW Club of America spring meet in Orangeburg, New York which was the closest distributor. He and his wife relocated to Sarasota, Florida in that time, took the Beetle with them, which was occasionally serviced at the local VW dealer. My mom had a condo in the next town, and when I'd drive her Audi to the dealer in Sarasota for service work, the VW dealer was next door. I spoke with the service manager who remembered seeing Mr. Perkins and the Beetle there.
Another interesting VW which was used by Mr. Perkins, but I never saw in person, was a pre-'72 Bay Window deluxe "executive" bus. It was painted silver, had chromed bumpers, and was fitted with a Porsche 912 engine. Mr. Perkins had a personal driver at his office, and drove him to local dealers for visits with it, or to special outings along with some of his office people. |
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Malokin Martin
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Super random, but I saw you logged on yesterday, so I’d figure if post this here. It’s exactly what you were looking for (even year) and a bit more complete than the one you made
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2670382
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RockStock
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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Which year do we think the Dealer Window Sticker started?
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BulliBill
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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OK just so there’s no misunderstandings, hyper-drive notwithstanding, I have modified my sticker to include this up front.
That should make it pretty clear that this is a replica and not an official document. |
I also agree that any reproduction of this window card should have the mention that it is a reproduction for display , etc.
Really nice work on this project "bobnorman"! Will you be offering up your service for others?
I still have my original window card from my first car, a 1964 Deluxe Beetle in my literature collection. Unfortunately that Beetle was totalled way back in 1971 or '72... I've got a faint scar on my forehead from hitting the steering wheel.
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Rome
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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| Which year do we think the Dealer Window Sticker started? |
Mentioned in my response from 3/2024 above.  |
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bobnorman
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I’ve made a few for other people. But always careful to put in the disclaimer and point out that the information is for novelty. There are at least four different types that I’ve done now. With the earliest being much different than the later ones as you can see in this thread.
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RockStock
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:59 am Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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| Which year do we think the Dealer Window Sticker started? |
Mentioned in my response from 3/2024 above. |
1958 then
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pondoras box
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Why would you need to put a disclaimer on it? It’s not an official document to register or insure it and it definitely doesn’t convey ownership. It’s like getting aftermarket parts and it has to have it permanently marked as aftermarket on it. People on here are selling new windows with the original manufacturer markings engraved on them and everyone loves them. If anything that’s worse because the old logos told you if the glass is safety glass or not, new stuff might not be made to the same standard.
Just curious as to why this would be different.
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1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
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bobnorman
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Dealer Window Sticker |
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Why would you need to put a disclaimer on it? It’s not an official document to register or insure it and it definitely doesn’t convey ownership. It’s like getting aftermarket parts and it has to have it permanently marked as aftermarket on it. People on here are selling new windows with the original manufacturer markings engraved on them and everyone loves them. If anything that’s worse because the old logos told you if the glass is safety glass or not, new stuff might not be made to the same standard.
Just curious as to why this would be different. |
I would think it has to do with matching numbers, and the value of that. Theoretically you could add an engine number on the replica bill of sale that is of a near date and then use that as “proof” of a numbers matching car with original engine.
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