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pgiraud Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2015 Posts: 25 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:13 am Post subject: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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I am reassambling a 1956 oval window beetle. I bought it already dissasembled.
I have a question regarding the horn brush that goes on the steering column.
The horn brush I was given with the car doesn't fit in the small tube welded on the column outer tube. The horn brush holder diameter is smaller.
On the following picture, at the top, it's the brush currently installed in my 1958 beetle. At the bottom, it's the brush I have for the oval. They seem identical but are a bit different.
Is a part missing (black plastic piece)? If so, where can I find the missing bit?
On the CIP1's website, they sell an after-market part that looks like the one I have on my 1958.
https://www.cip1.ca/vwc-111-998-011/
Do you know any other sellers for this part in Europe?
They also sell something looking like this.
https://www.cip1.ca/vwc-111-951-581-ac/
Given the description, it should also fit in my oval window, but I don't understand how it can the plugged. It looks so much different. |
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RUNKLE Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2014 Posts: 5799
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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The horn brush holder is smaller because it’s missing the plastic/phenolic insulator sleeve, and apparently the brush is missing as well… just buy yourself a new horn brush assembly, like the one that’s in your ‘58.
Le porte-balais en corne est plus petit car il manque le manchon l' isolateur en plastique/phénolique, et apparemment le balai manque également... achetez une nouvelle brosse en corne comme celle de votre 58.
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1950 Standard - 1959 Ragtop - 1961 Ragtop two fold - 1964 Sunroof
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1968 Squareback |
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pgiraud Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2015 Posts: 25 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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The brush with the spring is still there but it's worn
I'll follow your advice. Thanks. I just need to find a reseller in France or Europe. |
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banana split Samba Member

Joined: January 22, 2002 Posts: 1126 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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I too would love to know the application of this version :
Many years ago I used to know but for the life of me I can't remember. I also have a few NOS ones tucked away in a box somewhere. _________________ My Beetles :
1951 Crotch Cooler 11G Split Ragtop
1953 Zwitter
1964 Chop Top |
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pgiraud Samba Member
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RUNKLE Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2014 Posts: 5799
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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Same application as the original screw top assembly, just a cheaper aftermarket version with a plastic body.
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1950 Standard - 1959 Ragtop - 1961 Ragtop two fold - 1964 Sunroof
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splitjunkie Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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Both are much cheaper at Wolfsburg West. I have the repro screw terminal version and it seems to be very good quality. _________________ Chris
You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld |
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banana split Samba Member

Joined: January 22, 2002 Posts: 1126 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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RUNKLE wrote: |
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Same application as the original screw top assembly, just a cheaper aftermarket version with a plastic body.
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Without the screw terminal, how is the wire connected to it? _________________ My Beetles :
1951 Crotch Cooler 11G Split Ragtop
1953 Zwitter
1964 Chop Top |
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RUNKLE Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2014 Posts: 5799
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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Wire gets pushed through the slots on top… not ideal, but as long as it makes contact I suppose.
_________________ Type 1
1950 Standard - 1959 Ragtop - 1961 Ragtop two fold - 1964 Sunroof
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banana split Samba Member

Joined: January 22, 2002 Posts: 1126 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Horn Brush wrong size - incomplete? |
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Answers! Valuable answers! Thanks for clarifying RUNKLE  _________________ My Beetles :
1951 Crotch Cooler 11G Split Ragtop
1953 Zwitter
1964 Chop Top |
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