Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Nice bus, even nicer sister
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
Forum Index -> Split Bus Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
pondoras box
Samba Member


Joined: March 22, 2004
Posts: 1578
Location: Eerie PA
pondoras box is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Don’t toss that old floor! It’s not scrap metal, someone only needs to patch sections of their floor would love to get their hands on it. I’ve adopted an old Native American saying at my shop. “None of the buffalo goes to waste” we use anything that’s left. My bus has other bus metal, bug metal, old computer server cabinets, and even metal from a wrecked Tesla on it now.

But I love your attention to detail!
_________________
Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.

1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1960 hardtop
1964 hardtop
1965 hardtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
EverettB Premium Member
Administrator


Joined: April 11, 2000
Posts: 71506
Location: Phoenix 602
EverettB is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Wow, I didn't know you could remove and reinstall the materials inside the air cleaner through the holes.

This must have taken many hours?
_________________
How to Post Photos
Everett Barnes - [email protected] | My wanted ads
"Water is the only drink for a wise man" | "Communication prevents complaints"
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Facebook Instagram YouTube Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Eric&Barb
Samba Member


Joined: September 19, 2004
Posts: 25913
Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
Eric&Barb is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Yes, hopefully you can help others with the parts of the old new floor you had to remove. Heck, wish you were closer, we could use the areas right over the jack points for our 1960 walk thru panel camper.

Wow, on your work to preserve the air cleaner! Personally would have just soaked it in Evaporust or the clone recipe of that to remove the rust. Followed with a rinse with water and once quickly dried, wiped down with Ospho, then prime and paint. Once the engine is run the inside of aircleaner will be coated with oil.
_________________
In Stereo, Where Available!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
BarryL Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: November 01, 2004
Posts: 15216
Location: Casa de Oro, California
BarryL is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

That has to be record in tedium.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
thom
Samba Member


Joined: October 12, 2000
Posts: 6154
Location: Sacramento
thom is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

That's quite clever; I currently have an air cleaner I need to restore; I wanted to powder coat it but they told me the filling would cause problems.

bcs wrote:
After the time-consuming ‘cargo-floor and outer-rocker’-topic, it’s time for a little change:

The aircleaner was outside in a dentfree-condition but inside rusty.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.









Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



To have a good starting basis for the paintjob later on, it should also be sandblasted.

But having afterwards all the sand and dust inside the fiber-filter-material?

Better not. So, the fiber was completely removed through the numerous holes …


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



But which new material is suitable as a matching replacement?

Having a closer look inside our cleaning-agent-cabinet, my attention was driven to sponges which are normally used in the kitchen.

They are made from endless stainless-steel-spirals. It seems to be the perfect solution (but please don’t tell my wife Very Happy )


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



After the aircleaner was restored, the 3 sponges were threaded through one of the holes by using a wooden stick, tweezers and a dentist instrument.

I hope that this solution will also prove its worth in later operation ...



Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.




_____________
benjamin

_________________
-Thom
1956 Single Cab
1957 Porsche 356A Sunroof
1957 23-Window Deluxe
1957 Mercedes Westfalia single cab
1963 Unimog 404
1965 E-Type
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Hello Pandoras Box,

the removed cargo-floor-parts were already stored in my workshop Wink

After the bus-project will be finished, all the remaining parts will be offered at one of the VW swap-meets.

You have welded in old computer server cabinets and metal from a wrecked Tesla?!

I’m excited about your sustainable bus project! Very Happy

Many thanks.
_____________
benjamin




pondoras box wrote:
Don’t toss that old floor! It’s not scrap metal, someone only needs to patch sections of their floor would love to get their hands on it. I’ve adopted an old Native American saying at my shop. “None of the buffalo goes to waste” we use anything that’s left. My bus has other bus metal, bug metal, old computer server cabinets, and even metal from a wrecked Tesla on it now.

But I love your attention to detail!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Hello Everett,

removing the old material and threading in the new material did not take so much time (approx. 40 minutes) Very Happy

More time-consuming was the subsequent pulling apart of the new material inside the air filter until the entire room was filled (approx. 45 minutes).

Many thanks.

_____________
benjamin



EverettB wrote:
Wow, I didn't know you could remove and reinstall the materials inside the air cleaner through the holes.

This must have taken many hours?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Hello Eric&Barb,

sorry that our distance is so far, but I’m sure you will find the needed part in your neighbourhood Wink

I have to admit that sometimes I'm not sure if the efforts are right. Confused

This is one reason why this project is taking so long.

Many thanks.
_____________
benjamin




Eric&Barb wrote:
Yes, hopefully you can help others with the parts of the old new floor you had to remove. Heck, wish you were closer, we could use the areas right over the jack points for our 1960 walk thru panel camper.

Wow, on your work to preserve the air cleaner! Personally would have just soaked it in Evaporust or the clone recipe of that to remove the rust. Followed with a rinse with water and once quickly dried, wiped down with Ospho, then prime and paint. Once the engine is run the inside of aircleaner will be coated with oil.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Hello Barry,

this work was very calming Cool

And so quiet, no comparison to cleaning for hours the cavities with a vacuum cleaner.

Many thanks.

_____________
benjamin




BarryL wrote:
That has to be record in tedium.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Hello Thom,

many thanks. I wish you good luck for restoring your air-cleaner! Wink

_____________

benjamin



[quote="thom"]That's quite clever; I currently have an air cleaner I need to restore; I wanted to powder coat it but they told me the filling would cause problems.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

The next focus were the seat-benches:

The spring cores were worn out and too soft.

The upholsterer's work should start on a stable base.

I also don't want to sink in later due to my weight Very Happy


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



Fortunately, there is a reliable workshop in southern Germany that is specialized in reproducing innersprings.

Unfortunately, he is always very busy and it took about 1,5 years until he finished my order.

To be on the safe side, the guy put some extra springs into the front-seat-bench for the heavy driver Very Happy

Here are the comparison photos of the old and new seat-spring-cores:


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.






_____________
benjamin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
thom
Samba Member


Joined: October 12, 2000
Posts: 6154
Location: Sacramento
thom is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

My fat ass needs something like that

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
-Thom
1956 Single Cab
1957 Porsche 356A Sunroof
1957 23-Window Deluxe
1957 Mercedes Westfalia single cab
1963 Unimog 404
1965 E-Type
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

_____________
benjamin


thom wrote:
My fat ass needs something like that

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

The following topic is one of the highlights of this project Very Happy

I never thought I would find NOS Snowflake-material for restoring the kickpanels.

But by a very lucky coincidence, the material was found at one of the largest classic car parts markets in Europe called Veterama in Mannheim Very Happy Very Happy

The old seller told me, that he got the sheet metal in the 70s / 80s when a VW-warehouse was cleaned out and closed.

He had no idea for what this sheet-metal was used, but he kept it over all the years because of its nice Snowflake-design.

Fortunately he just stored it very carefully Razz

Here is the comparison between the NOS-material (above) and the kickpanel-trim (below):


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



The challenge was to form the sheet metal into the correct and needed dimensions.

Numerous different attempts were made until the right solution was found.

First the longitudinal bead was made with the beading-machine …


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



The prepared sheet metal was cut into the right form for the next step ...


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



To be able to craft the correct bending, a knocker-molding-form was created and built …


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



After about 700 … 800 hammer hits, the bending is finished completely …


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



The correct dimensions were controlled and the fit was checked on a kick-panel …


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



After that the riveting was done step by step …


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



… and the NOS Snowflake-trim is fixed …



Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



The steps for preparing the long trim are identical but more time-consuming due to the larger dimensions Very Happy


_____________
benjamin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
matthew henricks
Samba Member


Joined: January 02, 2002
Posts: 1342
Location: So. Cal
matthew henricks is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

Talk about pucker factor on the kick panel. Very nice work. I bet your in-box is filling up with others wanting one...
_________________
1964 Original Owner build Thread. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=702135&highlight=

Ambulance Fan's. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=627707&highlight=

Parts i am looking for:
64 bug nice used front/rear Black LHD floor mat.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:02 am    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

matthew henricks wrote:
Talk about pucker factor on the kick panel. Very nice work. I bet your in-box is filling up with others wanting one...



Hello Matthew,

many thanks for your kind words Very Happy

Fortunately, there are still a few short and long Snowflake sheets left Razz

_____________

benjamin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

To complete the Snowflake-topic, here are also the details about the long Snowflake trim for the rear-seat-bench kickpanel …


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



A further knocker-molding-form was built to get the identical measurements of the original long trim.

I have to admit, that manufacturing the short trim is much more comfortable because of the smaller dimensions Smile


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



_____________

benjamin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
bcs
Samba Member


Joined: August 18, 2011
Posts: 89
Location: Germany, Cologne
bcs is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice bus, even nicer sister Reply with quote

The next job: The 5 rims and the clips for the hub-caps.

Some clips were still original but bent, some were broken off and some were exchanged in the past to reproduction ones.

For an uniform appearance, all clips should be replaced.

That means to do the riveting process 25 times Confused

My first attempts with the riveting tool and a hammer were unsuccessful due to my weak arms Very Happy

So a rim-holder was designed that the riveting could be done by using a workshop press.
The basis: 15mm thick steel-plate / threaded rods M14.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.







Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



The original clips (left) have the little upgoing tail which is missing at the reproduction versions (middle).
After a long search reproduction-clips with the little upgoing tail like the original ones were found (right).



Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



Because of this tail the riveting tool had to be sanded down slightly.
After that it was welded onto the plate.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



The workshop-press made a good job: After 5,5 tons and the rivet was smooth Very Happy



Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



Just 3 clips were installed to test the riveting-process and the fitting of the hubcap.

After that the rivets and clips were removed. The rims will be given now to a sandblaster …



Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.








Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.





_____________
benjamin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Split Bus All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
Page 10 of 10

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2024, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.