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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

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So hard to look at, so I don't understand the "why"...


Built on a bet?

"I bet you can't make something that'll run under its own power out of that pile of junk behind the garage."

Wonder what it cost the guy who laid down the challenge ...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

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So hard to look at, so I don't understand the "why"...


Built on a bet?

"I bet you can't make something that'll run under its own power out of that pile of junk behind the garage."

Wonder what it cost the guy who laid down the challenge ...


That's about the only thing that makes sense... LOL
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

This one-off car was built in the mid-1960s by a Welshman, the late William Maxwell Evans of Llanfyllin, who wanted to revolutionise car design by providing both front and rear steering; in theory, this would provide more stability than the usual practice of applying all the steering effort through the front wheels.

Convinced that his concept was viable, Maxwell Evans took the drastic step of cutting a nearly-new Volkswagen Beetle in half. He discarded the entire front section but for the bonnet, which would be used as a front mudguard, with a second bonnet meeting the same objective at the rear. This surgery transformed the car into two-seater, with the ex-rear seat accommodating the driver and passenger.

He then added front and rear subframes, each carrying a single wheel, which were articulated to provide front and rear steering. Fitting the rear subframe caused a problem with ground clearance but this was resolved by raising the middle of the car, simply by removing the original VW wheels and fitting a set of taller ones borrowed from a Ford Popular.

To achieve dual steering, the front and rear wheels had to turn in opposite directions, and ingenious engineering went into designing and fitting two diagonal steel rods that connected them to one steering box.

These radical changes threw up a few problems, such as how to apply a front wheel brake. Maxwell Evans came up with a clever solution. The car still had the original brakes on the driven middle wheels, and he realised that these could create enough inertia to automatically apply a brake to the front.

This was achieved by mounting the battery on a pivoted tray so that it slid forward when the car slowed; the battery would press against a plunger attached to a hydraulic brake pipe, which transmitted braking effort to the front wheel.

Cutting the car in two made it difficult to get in or out of without climbing over the sides, so this too was simply addressed by fitting a wooden front bulkhead that hinged forward, leaving a narrow gap.

Maxwell Evans filed a patent that set out the advantage of front and rear steering as "a lessened liability to side-slip due to loss of adhesion when travelling in a curve". His reasoning was perfectly sound, as sharing the steering effort between the front and rear wheels halved the angles adopted by conventional front-wheel steering. Compared to a Beetle, the steering effort was reduced from 30 degrees at the front to 15 degrees front and rear.

Oh and the guy couldn't weld, so the whole thing is bolted together...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

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Some people think they stopped making beetles after 1957. Some people think they stopped making buses in March 55, or August 58, or August 63, or July 67.
Some think that if your beetle has a padded dash, it's an engine donor. Some think that if it has push button door handles, it's a boat anchor.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

Interesting... I hope he didn't quit his day job.

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This one-off car was built in the mid-1960s by a Welshman, the late William Maxwell Evans of Llanfyllin, who wanted to revolutionise car design by providing both front and rear steering; in theory, this would provide more stability than the usual practice of applying all the steering effort through the front wheels.

Convinced that his concept was viable, Maxwell Evans took the drastic step of cutting a nearly-new Volkswagen Beetle in half. He discarded the entire front section but for the bonnet, which would be used as a front mudguard, with a second bonnet meeting the same objective at the rear. This surgery transformed the car into two-seater, with the ex-rear seat accommodating the driver and passenger.

He then added front and rear subframes, each carrying a single wheel, which were articulated to provide front and rear steering. Fitting the rear subframe caused a problem with ground clearance but this was resolved by raising the middle of the car, simply by removing the original VW wheels and fitting a set of taller ones borrowed from a Ford Popular.

To achieve dual steering, the front and rear wheels had to turn in opposite directions, and ingenious engineering went into designing and fitting two diagonal steel rods that connected them to one steering box.

These radical changes threw up a few problems, such as how to apply a front wheel brake. Maxwell Evans came up with a clever solution. The car still had the original brakes on the driven middle wheels, and he realised that these could create enough inertia to automatically apply a brake to the front.

This was achieved by mounting the battery on a pivoted tray so that it slid forward when the car slowed; the battery would press against a plunger attached to a hydraulic brake pipe, which transmitted braking effort to the front wheel.

Cutting the car in two made it difficult to get in or out of without climbing over the sides, so this too was simply addressed by fitting a wooden front bulkhead that hinged forward, leaving a narrow gap.

Maxwell Evans filed a patent that set out the advantage of front and rear steering as "a lessened liability to side-slip due to loss of adhesion when travelling in a curve". His reasoning was perfectly sound, as sharing the steering effort between the front and rear wheels halved the angles adopted by conventional front-wheel steering. Compared to a Beetle, the steering effort was reduced from 30 degrees at the front to 15 degrees front and rear.

Oh and the guy couldn't weld, so the whole thing is bolted together...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

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This one-off car was built in the mid-1960s by a Welshman


that explains it! bloody hell, brakes assisted by a sliding battery! Shocked
I remember the pinninfarina X had a diamond wheel layout but only the front steered.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

Bunglebus wrote:
This one-off car was built in the mid-1960s by a Welshman, the late William Maxwell Evans of Llanfyllin, who wanted to revolutionise car design by providing both front and rear steering; in theory, this would provide more stability than the usual practice of applying all the steering effort through the front wheels.


These radical changes threw up a few problems, such as how to apply a front wheel brake. Maxwell Evans came up with a clever solution. The car still had the original brakes on the driven middle wheels, and he realised that these could create enough inertia to automatically apply a brake to the front.

This was achieved by mounting the battery on a pivoted tray so that it slid forward when the car slowed; the battery would press against a plunger attached to a hydraulic brake pipe, which transmitted braking effort to the front wheel.

Oh and the guy couldn't weld, so the whole thing is bolted together...

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This build/story, especially the part about the brake system, reminded me of a sports gear trailer that I built to pull behind my bicycle when I lived in Japan. I built it out of a couple old kids bikes using the front forks connected to an old windsurfing boom that attached to a sliding piece of plywood attached under the rear rack on my bike that I fabricated out of plywood.

My first design was just a fixed carriage bolt that fit through the front of the boom head but I found that when I was pulling a full trailer that the weight and momentum would be hard to control if I had to stop suddenly so I designed the sliding plywood that would move about 3 inches forward and back. As I was using the front forks from the bikes, I already had the bike brakes so I bought 2 cables and ran them up to an adjustable connector on the bike and attached the brake cable beads to the sliding plywood. It would take about 30 seconds to attach the trailer and hook up and adjust the brake cables to have a crude "surge braking system" that would use the trailer weight and momentum to automatically apply the brakes to both trailer tires.

Having the "surge" trailer brakes combined with the bike brakes, the trailer was easy to control and surprisingly easy to pull.

I'll see if I can find a couple close up pics of the actual plywood sliding platform but here are a few pics of the trailer with the gear I was pulling.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

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worried about crumple zones perhaps?
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I’m sorry, your luggage didn’t survive the crash.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... Reply with quote

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