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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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andk5591 wrote: |
So hard to look at, so I don't understand the "why"... |
Built on a bet?
"I bet you can't make something that'll run under its own power out of that pile of junk behind the garage."
Wonder what it cost the guy who laid down the challenge ... _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"It's okay to think."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
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andk5591 Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16800 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:56 am Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
andk5591 wrote: |
So hard to look at, so I don't understand the "why"... |
Built on a bet?
"I bet you can't make something that'll run under its own power out of that pile of junk behind the garage."
Wonder what it cost the guy who laid down the challenge ... |
That's about the only thing that makes sense... LOL _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
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Bunglebus Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2006 Posts: 750
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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This one-off car was built in the mid-1960s by a Welshman, the late William Maxwell Evans of Llanfyllin, who wanted to revolutionise car design by providing both front and rear steering; in theory, this would provide more stability than the usual practice of applying all the steering effort through the front wheels.
Convinced that his concept was viable, Maxwell Evans took the drastic step of cutting a nearly-new Volkswagen Beetle in half. He discarded the entire front section but for the bonnet, which would be used as a front mudguard, with a second bonnet meeting the same objective at the rear. This surgery transformed the car into two-seater, with the ex-rear seat accommodating the driver and passenger.
He then added front and rear subframes, each carrying a single wheel, which were articulated to provide front and rear steering. Fitting the rear subframe caused a problem with ground clearance but this was resolved by raising the middle of the car, simply by removing the original VW wheels and fitting a set of taller ones borrowed from a Ford Popular.
To achieve dual steering, the front and rear wheels had to turn in opposite directions, and ingenious engineering went into designing and fitting two diagonal steel rods that connected them to one steering box.
These radical changes threw up a few problems, such as how to apply a front wheel brake. Maxwell Evans came up with a clever solution. The car still had the original brakes on the driven middle wheels, and he realised that these could create enough inertia to automatically apply a brake to the front.
This was achieved by mounting the battery on a pivoted tray so that it slid forward when the car slowed; the battery would press against a plunger attached to a hydraulic brake pipe, which transmitted braking effort to the front wheel.
Cutting the car in two made it difficult to get in or out of without climbing over the sides, so this too was simply addressed by fitting a wooden front bulkhead that hinged forward, leaving a narrow gap.
Maxwell Evans filed a patent that set out the advantage of front and rear steering as "a lessened liability to side-slip due to loss of adhesion when travelling in a curve". His reasoning was perfectly sound, as sharing the steering effort between the front and rear wheels halved the angles adopted by conventional front-wheel steering. Compared to a Beetle, the steering effort was reduced from 30 degrees at the front to 15 degrees front and rear.
Oh and the guy couldn't weld, so the whole thing is bolted together...
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Some people think they stopped making beetles after 1957. Some people think they stopped making buses in March 55, or August 58, or August 63, or July 67.
Some think that if your beetle has a padded dash, it's an engine donor. Some think that if it has push button door handles, it's a boat anchor.
Do what you want. Ignore the elitists. Drive your VW. Enjoy life. |
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Bunglebus Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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FB_IMG_1751976935685 by RS, on Flickr _________________
cdennisg wrote: |
Some people think they stopped making beetles after 1957. Some people think they stopped making buses in March 55, or August 58, or August 63, or July 67.
Some think that if your beetle has a padded dash, it's an engine donor. Some think that if it has push button door handles, it's a boat anchor.
Do what you want. Ignore the elitists. Drive your VW. Enjoy life. |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52750 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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Wow! _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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EVfun  Samba Member

Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 6142 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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Interesting... I hope he didn't quit his day job.
Bunglebus wrote: |
This one-off car was built in the mid-1960s by a Welshman, the late William Maxwell Evans of Llanfyllin, who wanted to revolutionise car design by providing both front and rear steering; in theory, this would provide more stability than the usual practice of applying all the steering effort through the front wheels.
Convinced that his concept was viable, Maxwell Evans took the drastic step of cutting a nearly-new Volkswagen Beetle in half. He discarded the entire front section but for the bonnet, which would be used as a front mudguard, with a second bonnet meeting the same objective at the rear. This surgery transformed the car into two-seater, with the ex-rear seat accommodating the driver and passenger.
He then added front and rear subframes, each carrying a single wheel, which were articulated to provide front and rear steering. Fitting the rear subframe caused a problem with ground clearance but this was resolved by raising the middle of the car, simply by removing the original VW wheels and fitting a set of taller ones borrowed from a Ford Popular.
To achieve dual steering, the front and rear wheels had to turn in opposite directions, and ingenious engineering went into designing and fitting two diagonal steel rods that connected them to one steering box.
These radical changes threw up a few problems, such as how to apply a front wheel brake. Maxwell Evans came up with a clever solution. The car still had the original brakes on the driven middle wheels, and he realised that these could create enough inertia to automatically apply a brake to the front.
This was achieved by mounting the battery on a pivoted tray so that it slid forward when the car slowed; the battery would press against a plunger attached to a hydraulic brake pipe, which transmitted braking effort to the front wheel.
Cutting the car in two made it difficult to get in or out of without climbing over the sides, so this too was simply addressed by fitting a wooden front bulkhead that hinged forward, leaving a narrow gap.
Maxwell Evans filed a patent that set out the advantage of front and rear steering as "a lessened liability to side-slip due to loss of adhesion when travelling in a curve". His reasoning was perfectly sound, as sharing the steering effort between the front and rear wheels halved the angles adopted by conventional front-wheel steering. Compared to a Beetle, the steering effort was reduced from 30 degrees at the front to 15 degrees front and rear.
Oh and the guy couldn't weld, so the whole thing is bolted together...
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finster Samba Member

Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 9981 Location: not far from the madding crowd
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:11 am Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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Bunglebus wrote: |
This one-off car was built in the mid-1960s by a Welshman |
that explains it! bloody hell, brakes assisted by a sliding battery!
I remember the pinninfarina X had a diamond wheel layout but only the front steered. _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Shonandb  Samba Member

Joined: January 12, 2019 Posts: 2042 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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Bunglebus wrote: |
This one-off car was built in the mid-1960s by a Welshman, the late William Maxwell Evans of Llanfyllin, who wanted to revolutionise car design by providing both front and rear steering; in theory, this would provide more stability than the usual practice of applying all the steering effort through the front wheels.
These radical changes threw up a few problems, such as how to apply a front wheel brake. Maxwell Evans came up with a clever solution. The car still had the original brakes on the driven middle wheels, and he realised that these could create enough inertia to automatically apply a brake to the front.
This was achieved by mounting the battery on a pivoted tray so that it slid forward when the car slowed; the battery would press against a plunger attached to a hydraulic brake pipe, which transmitted braking effort to the front wheel.
Oh and the guy couldn't weld, so the whole thing is bolted together...
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This build/story, especially the part about the brake system, reminded me of a sports gear trailer that I built to pull behind my bicycle when I lived in Japan. I built it out of a couple old kids bikes using the front forks connected to an old windsurfing boom that attached to a sliding piece of plywood attached under the rear rack on my bike that I fabricated out of plywood.
My first design was just a fixed carriage bolt that fit through the front of the boom head but I found that when I was pulling a full trailer that the weight and momentum would be hard to control if I had to stop suddenly so I designed the sliding plywood that would move about 3 inches forward and back. As I was using the front forks from the bikes, I already had the bike brakes so I bought 2 cables and ran them up to an adjustable connector on the bike and attached the brake cable beads to the sliding plywood. It would take about 30 seconds to attach the trailer and hook up and adjust the brake cables to have a crude "surge braking system" that would use the trailer weight and momentum to automatically apply the brakes to both trailer tires.
Having the "surge" trailer brakes combined with the bike brakes, the trailer was easy to control and surprisingly easy to pull.
I'll see if I can find a couple close up pics of the actual plywood sliding platform but here are a few pics of the trailer with the gear I was pulling.
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Bunglebus Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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FB_IMG_1752262553072 by RS, on Flickr _________________
cdennisg wrote: |
Some people think they stopped making beetles after 1957. Some people think they stopped making buses in March 55, or August 58, or August 63, or July 67.
Some think that if your beetle has a padded dash, it's an engine donor. Some think that if it has push button door handles, it's a boat anchor.
Do what you want. Ignore the elitists. Drive your VW. Enjoy life. |
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Bunglebus Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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FB_IMG_1753472927869 by RS, on Flickr
FB_IMG_1753444671328 by RS, on Flickr _________________
cdennisg wrote: |
Some people think they stopped making beetles after 1957. Some people think they stopped making buses in March 55, or August 58, or August 63, or July 67.
Some think that if your beetle has a padded dash, it's an engine donor. Some think that if it has push button door handles, it's a boat anchor.
Do what you want. Ignore the elitists. Drive your VW. Enjoy life. |
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finster Samba Member

Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 9981 Location: not far from the madding crowd
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Posted: Yesterday 4:05 am Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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worried about crumple zones perhaps? _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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NJ John Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 2876 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Yesterday 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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I’m sorry, your luggage didn’t survive the crash. _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
11.41 et buggy. Long gone
Let’s go O’s! Let’s go O’s!
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Posted: Yesterday 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: VW abortions, homemade bastards, post em..... |
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Jimmy Durante's bus. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
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