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BFB Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Hell yeh, thats cool. Should start a thread on it so we can see more pics.
Back on the alternator subject, i have a buddy that recently bought out an old starter / alternator business and he said it no big deal to rebuild our old shit and even bump up an alternator to 90 amps.
If yall are interested i can see if he’d make a deal for doing a larger number of them vs onesies and twosies and maybe we can get together and ‘ buy in bulk’ for a discount _________________ "how am i supposed to torque the rear wheel nut to 250 ft lbs??? " - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
Most experts aren't. |
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sidemarkers Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2014 Posts: 136 Location: AZ
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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oprn wrote: |
Just wondering how you are getting away with recycling hot air into the type 1 cooling fan. It must get smoking hot in that engine compartment especially with twin turbos and all the related piping. What am I missing here? |
Going through a few pics from the gallery. You can see from this angle just how little of the header and exhaust is actually in the engine bay. Type 3s have a rounded belly pan in front and when a type 1 style beam is installed it doesn't hang as low as a type 3 beam. This makes the under pan area very flat creating a high velocity, low pressure area that aids in vehicle stability AND keeping hot things, (like turbo headers) cooler.
Speaking of cooler... heads with the factory fins intact especially under the ports helps, as do single beehive springs to a lesser degree |
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 14860 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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I just remember my sister's stock type 3 got pretty warm in the engine compartment. It did not effect the engine temperature though due to both the cooling air and the air cleaner pulled off the rear 1/4 side vents so they were isolated from all that compartment heat.
I see you have left off the firewall tin so air can come over the transaxle and into the fan housing. That is likely a big part of why it's working too.
I did a similar thing with my street Buggy when I changed over from a type 1 to a type 4 engine. I retained the crank mounted cooling fan but left off the firewall tin so the air free flows from under the car and out of the wheel wells over top the engine to fill that huge vacuum behind the car. I also moved the exhaust out to the sides and away from the center rear into the slipstream off the tires. The spent cooling air also exits the sides under the tappet covers instead of straight back.
The result of those changes created two hot spots behind the car to the left and right. The center rear down at the cooling fan intake is only a few degrees above ambient now. With the type 1 engine the hot spot was right behind the crank pulley dead center and as high as 3 feet above the road. At times it was as high as 40* above ambient! On and 80*F day it would be 120*F in the pulley/carb/air cleaner region.
Getting good air flow is not a simple thing on these rear engine cars! _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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sidemarkers Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Replacement alternator arrived on time. The old welded and balanced fan was showing it's age so I ordered some Zotz.
Fired it up. It's super quiet and puts out great power! So far so good! |
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Dstolan83 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Unfortunately you are more likely to get a bad “New out of the box” part than on the will work as advertised. Really sucks that this is the current norm. |
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Rob Combs Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2020 Posts: 569 Location: South Bay LA, California
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Glad to hear you got this worked out.
Really hoping it didn’t take a month give or take for you to work through the warranty claim process and receive your replacement part. |
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sidemarkers Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Rob Combs wrote: |
Glad to hear you got this worked out.
Really hoping it didn’t take a month give or take for you to work through the warranty claim process and receive your replacement part. |
Jeg's and Pertronix were very professional with the process. Jeg's said it'd be quicker to order another one, while the returned one is in transit back to them.
Seems to charge ok, although the rpm at which the alt light turns off is a bit higher than others I've experienced. I'm used to just reaching into the car through the window and firing it up without the alt light staying on. |
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mikedjames Samba Member

Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 3340 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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sidemarkers wrote: |
Rob Combs wrote: |
Glad to hear you got this worked out.
Really hoping it didn’t take a month give or take for you to work through the warranty claim process and receive your replacement part. |
Jeg's and Pertronix were very professional with the process. Jeg's said it'd be quicker to order another one, while the returned one is in transit back to them.
Seems to charge ok, although the rpm at which the alt light turns off is a bit higher than others I've experienced. I'm used to just reaching into the car through the window and firing it up without the alt light staying on. |
I think it is a part of the logic of the regulator chip in modern regulators - switch on the field and start regulating when alternator RPM is above threshold for so many continous seconds after 12 volts appears on the warning lamp connection from the ignition.
Once the light goes off it seems to stay off down to about 500 engine rpm on my stock pulley setup _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
1974 VW T2 : Devon Eurovette camper with 1641 DP T1 engine, Progressive carb, full flow oil cooler, EDIS crank timed ignition.
Engine 1: 40k miles (rocker shaft clip fell off), Engine 2: 30k miles (rebuild, dropped valve). Engine 3: a JK Preservation Parts "new" engine, aluminium case: 26k miles: new top end.
Gearbox rebuild 2021 by Bears.
1979 Westerly GK24 24 foot racer/cruiser yacht Forethought of Gosport.
1973 wooden Pacer sailing dinghy |
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sidemarkers Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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mikedjames wrote: |
I think it is a part of the logic of the regulator chip in modern regulators - switch on the field and start regulating when alternator RPM is above threshold for so many continous seconds after 12 volts appears on the warning lamp connection from the ignition.
Once the light goes off it seems to stay off down to about 500 engine rpm on my stock pulley setup |
Thanks for that info. Very interesting. |
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