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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

4Gears4Tires wrote:
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Oof, that is pretty. My goal is to one day restore a car to that level of detail.


Right? Not my photo, but someone spent some SERIOUS time on the suspension on that rig.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

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To be sure, remove the fuse and then check each side with a multimeter for voltage.


That's what I usually do, I was hoping there was a more solid/reliable "this is how it always is"... apparently not! HA!


If you look at a fuse box one side very likely has a large bus bar on one edge, that’s the hot side
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

On the 85 Westy, if I have power at the first torpedo fuse behind the driver seat when the van is off, I should have power at the kitchen light. Correct?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

In a Westy the kitchen light uses an extension of the driver's seat ceiling light wiring.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

That makes sense because that light doesn't work either. I see a constant 0.7v whether I switch the light on or off.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

A guy named Pete (can't remember his Samba handle) had a really good write up on his site on removing the heads. Someone else will likely remember his Samba name which would make the search easier. Hopefully the information he had on his site is still out there and searchable, maybe it's here on The Samba somewhere.[/quote]

Anybody have an update on this? I now almost all the way through the job I started a while ago due to work and school and all that. It seems actually removing the rod bearings themselves will be the most difficult. I can't find a how-to on that part specifically. Heads are out but it will need some fine handy work to get the new bearings in.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

Is there more than one option for the steering column trim pieces? Mine came to me with this cut piece of upper trim that doesn't really fit. Ive searched and only see one kind. Makes me wonder if I have a deeper issue with the steering column where they had to cut that piece of trim to get it to fit...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

My guess is it was broken accidently, then they "cleaned" it up by trimming it smooth.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

As far as I know, there are at least 2 different versions of that upper trim piece.

What you have is the version meant to mount the heated seat switches. I don't believe VW shipped heated seat vans to the USA?

Some time ago, some of our usual vendors were selling that top trip piece, both the heated seat version and the plain version, don't know if they still do?

My WAG, is that somebody before you, bought that top trim piece for some reason. Perhaps, like I did, to install a temp/voltage/amp meter?

The piece you have, may be poorly made, and somebody cut it to fit better?
Or, somebody didn't re-attach the steering column quite right?
That top trim piece tends to be kinda fiddly to remove/re-install under the best of circumstances....


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Is there more than one option for the steering column trim pieces? Mine came to me with this cut piece of upper trim that doesn't really fit. Ive searched and only see one kind. Makes me wonder if I have a deeper issue with the steering column where they had to cut that piece of trim to get it to fit...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

Other than color there are two types of upper trim one with the switch fkr the heated aeat and the other qithout.

Yours is meeded to cut probably due to a failed steering column alignment.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

I plan to change for bigger front brakes, so a hub will be necessary.

Because I haven’t make my choice of bigger brakes and wheels yet, I wonder to know if I can install the hub for the front bearings, but still using the stock brakes and the stock 14 inches wheels?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

maco70 wrote:
I plan to change for bigger front brakes, so a hub will be necessary.

Because I haven’t make my choice of bigger brakes and wheels yet, I wonder to know if I can install the hub for the front bearings, but still using the stock brakes and the stock 14 inches wheels?

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No you cannot. The stock front rotors have an integral hub. The big brake kits use a more modern separate hub.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

I didn't want to take my Syncro on this recent Halifax trip I did, but the Westy suddenly developed a problem quite likely on the day to leave. I am thankful it didn't develop this problem 3 days into the trip though.

In neutral the motor revs freely. Until 3000 rpm the motor pulls strong with 80% throttle on a flat road, with maybe slight hesitations. Accelerating from a stop up hill is very laborious. But even on a flat road, at 4000 rpm the motor falls on its face, refusing to accelerate past that.

It felt like a fuel issue to me, so I T'd in a fuel pressure gauge on the driver side fuel rail, just before it returns to the FPR. 34psi at idle, 20psi at full throttle. I swapped in the Westy's old FPR and same exact result.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

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Thoughts? Suggestions?


Clogged fuel filter
Clogged screen in the pump
Clogged screen in the tank
Pump failing
Collapsed or pinched hose
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

I’ve experienced the same lately, and am nearly sure it’s an overheating coil.

Only when full-hot, mostly when under load, and curiously *right at* 4,000.

It feels as if there’s not enough spark to rev higher but in our case it misfires which you did not mention. The fuel pump was very cool so not that, but if a coil swap doesn’t do it my next move will be the fuel pump relay.

Once, it did the same thing at ever-lowering rpms below 4,000. We haven’t driven much this summer so am about to diagnose and fix this in a few weeks.

Djkeev had the same, and in his case it was indeed a coil.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

E1 wrote:

Djkeev had the same, and in his case it was indeed a coil.


it's possible all this coil failing stuff is related to aging ECUs too. as capacitors age, they can throw the circuitry into oscillation and cause misfiring. a new coil may clear the symptoms for a while simply because it's spec is closer to new. I saw someone post (and then edit out) that the missing had cleared briefly by turning the ignition off and then back on again. while this could maybe just relieve enough heat stress in the coil to allow operation, it may also reset the ECU out of oscillation. dunno. could be pinpointed by experimentation with a misfiring van and a freshly recapped ECU.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

Thanks Dan, I did edit that out as the technique can go very wrong if done wrong or if the ignition were to lock. To wit, only done in a straight line, no traffic around, clutch pedal out, fully prepped for it all going wrong.

I do that technique a lot, mostly to distinguish electrical from fuel, but always with some safety trepidation when posted. I absolutely agree it’s more of an ecu reboot with obviously no heat reduction effect one sees with a few minutes’ shutdown.

I have considered ecu in all this and have a fresh rebuilt in stock — tested for a few hundred miles so I know it works. It’ll go in if issue’s not fixed.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

So, I wonder how a bad coil as well as the ECU circuitry going into oscillation affects the Fuel Injector function?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

Andy, is it a fair guess that it’d err towards open loop like with startup?

Paging Dan, Crazyvanman, et al…
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread Reply with quote

Wildthings wrote:
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Clogged fuel filter


I had already assumed clogged fuel filter before I made the post and ordered a replacement. Even though the one in there was only about a 1000 miles old.

Anyway, that was the cause. I swapped in the new filter today and added a carb low pressure filter as a pre filter because they're clear.

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I guess I'll keep a line clamp and a few spare carb filters in the glove box while I order a new tank and grommet refresh kit.
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