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GoEverywhere Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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4Gears4Tires wrote: |
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Oof, that is pretty. My goal is to one day restore a car to that level of detail. |
Right? Not my photo, but someone spent some SERIOUS time on the suspension on that rig. |
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 24052 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Chris-a wrote: |
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To be sure, remove the fuse and then check each side with a multimeter for voltage. |
That's what I usually do, I was hoping there was a more solid/reliable "this is how it always is"... apparently not! HA! |
If you look at a fuse box one side very likely has a large bus bar on one edge, that’s the hot side _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 4296 Location: MD
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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On the 85 Westy, if I have power at the first torpedo fuse behind the driver seat when the van is off, I should have power at the kitchen light. Correct? _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
'85 Westy Sciuridae Domus Edition |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 10402 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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In a Westy the kitchen light uses an extension of the driver's seat ceiling light wiring.
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 4296 Location: MD
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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That makes sense because that light doesn't work either. I see a constant 0.7v whether I switch the light on or off. _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
'85 Westy Sciuridae Domus Edition |
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lobsterguy Samba Member

Joined: December 06, 2022 Posts: 40 Location: ME
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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A guy named Pete (can't remember his Samba handle) had a really good write up on his site on removing the heads. Someone else will likely remember his Samba name which would make the search easier. Hopefully the information he had on his site is still out there and searchable, maybe it's here on The Samba somewhere.[/quote]
Anybody have an update on this? I now almost all the way through the job I started a while ago due to work and school and all that. It seems actually removing the rod bearings themselves will be the most difficult. I can't find a how-to on that part specifically. Heads are out but it will need some fine handy work to get the new bearings in. _________________ 2.1L 1987 Manual Westy |
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Chris-a Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2005 Posts: 151 Location: PNW
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Is there more than one option for the steering column trim pieces? Mine came to me with this cut piece of upper trim that doesn't really fit. Ive searched and only see one kind. Makes me wonder if I have a deeper issue with the steering column where they had to cut that piece of trim to get it to fit...
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I gotta have nice tools, just look at the cars I drive.
Current: 87 Syncro AHU Tdi Westy'ish?
Previous: 77 Westy, 72 Tin Top Camper, 69 Passenger |
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kaalualu Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2011 Posts: 288 Location: Big Island, Hawaii
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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My guess is it was broken accidently, then they "cleaned" it up by trimming it smooth. _________________ '84 Transporter 16" CLK's/LED's/ AT's/Mansi injectors
'86 Wolfey Weekender Westfalia AT's/otherwise stock
Sold-'82 TinTop Diesel |
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do.dah Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 815 Location: Washington
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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As far as I know, there are at least 2 different versions of that upper trim piece.
What you have is the version meant to mount the heated seat switches. I don't believe VW shipped heated seat vans to the USA?
Some time ago, some of our usual vendors were selling that top trip piece, both the heated seat version and the plain version, don't know if they still do?
My WAG, is that somebody before you, bought that top trim piece for some reason. Perhaps, like I did, to install a temp/voltage/amp meter?
The piece you have, may be poorly made, and somebody cut it to fit better?
Or, somebody didn't re-attach the steering column quite right?
That top trim piece tends to be kinda fiddly to remove/re-install under the best of circumstances....
Chris-a wrote: |
Is there more than one option for the steering column trim pieces? Mine came to me with this cut piece of upper trim that doesn't really fit. Ive searched and only see one kind. Makes me wonder if I have a deeper issue with the steering column where they had to cut that piece of trim to get it to fit...
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ZsZ Samba Member

Joined: December 11, 2010 Posts: 1735 Location: Budapest Hungary, Europe
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Other than color there are two types of upper trim one with the switch fkr the heated aeat and the other qithout.
Yours is meeded to cut probably due to a failed steering column alignment. _________________ Zoltan
1.9 MTdi 2wd Multivan (ex Caravelle)
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maco70 Samba Member

Joined: March 16, 2011 Posts: 495 Location: Montréal, Québec
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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I plan to change for bigger front brakes, so a hub will be necessary.
Because I haven’t make my choice of bigger brakes and wheels yet, I wonder to know if I can install the hub for the front bearings, but still using the stock brakes and the stock 14 inches wheels?
Thanks! _________________ Martin from Montréal
1986 Vanagon GL full camper westfalia
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GoEverywhere Samba Member

Joined: December 13, 2020 Posts: 935 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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maco70 wrote: |
I plan to change for bigger front brakes, so a hub will be necessary.
Because I haven’t make my choice of bigger brakes and wheels yet, I wonder to know if I can install the hub for the front bearings, but still using the stock brakes and the stock 14 inches wheels?
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No you cannot. The stock front rotors have an integral hub. The big brake kits use a more modern separate hub. |
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 4296 Location: MD
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:26 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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I didn't want to take my Syncro on this recent Halifax trip I did, but the Westy suddenly developed a problem quite likely on the day to leave. I am thankful it didn't develop this problem 3 days into the trip though.
In neutral the motor revs freely. Until 3000 rpm the motor pulls strong with 80% throttle on a flat road, with maybe slight hesitations. Accelerating from a stop up hill is very laborious. But even on a flat road, at 4000 rpm the motor falls on its face, refusing to accelerate past that.
It felt like a fuel issue to me, so I T'd in a fuel pressure gauge on the driver side fuel rail, just before it returns to the FPR. 34psi at idle, 20psi at full throttle. I swapped in the Westy's old FPR and same exact result.
Thoughts? Suggestions? _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
'85 Westy Sciuridae Domus Edition |
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52473
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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4Gears4Tires wrote: |
Thoughts? Suggestions? |
Clogged fuel filter
Clogged screen in the pump
Clogged screen in the tank
Pump failing
Collapsed or pinched hose |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8328 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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I’ve experienced the same lately, and am nearly sure it’s an overheating coil.
Only when full-hot, mostly when under load, and curiously *right at* 4,000.
It feels as if there’s not enough spark to rev higher but in our case it misfires which you did not mention. The fuel pump was very cool so not that, but if a coil swap doesn’t do it my next move will be the fuel pump relay.
Once, it did the same thing at ever-lowering rpms below 4,000. We haven’t driven much this summer so am about to diagnose and fix this in a few weeks.
Djkeev had the same, and in his case it was indeed a coil. _________________ 1984 Westfailure/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere." — Colin Chapman
Jonathan Weisheit, Race in Peace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dS7xiFn7I&t=500s |
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5773 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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E1 wrote: |
Djkeev had the same, and in his case it was indeed a coil. |
it's possible all this coil failing stuff is related to aging ECUs too. as capacitors age, they can throw the circuitry into oscillation and cause misfiring. a new coil may clear the symptoms for a while simply because it's spec is closer to new. I saw someone post (and then edit out) that the missing had cleared briefly by turning the ignition off and then back on again. while this could maybe just relieve enough heat stress in the coil to allow operation, it may also reset the ECU out of oscillation. dunno. could be pinpointed by experimentation with a misfiring van and a freshly recapped ECU. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8328 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Thanks Dan, I did edit that out as the technique can go very wrong if done wrong or if the ignition were to lock. To wit, only done in a straight line, no traffic around, clutch pedal out, fully prepped for it all going wrong.
I do that technique a lot, mostly to distinguish electrical from fuel, but always with some safety trepidation when posted. I absolutely agree it’s more of an ecu reboot with obviously no heat reduction effect one sees with a few minutes’ shutdown.
I have considered ecu in all this and have a fresh rebuilt in stock — tested for a few hundred miles so I know it works. It’ll go in if issue’s not fixed.
Thanks. _________________ 1984 Westfailure/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere." — Colin Chapman
Jonathan Weisheit, Race in Peace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dS7xiFn7I&t=500s |
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AndyBees Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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So, I wonder how a bad coil as well as the ECU circuitry going into oscillation affects the Fuel Injector function? _________________ '84 Vanagon Tin-top, ALH TDI, two trips to Alaska, 2014 & 16. 1989 Tin-top unmolested.
1983 Air-cool, 225k miles, 180k miles mine, seven trips to Alaska from 1986 thru 2003. 1975 Bay hopeful. |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8328 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Andy, is it a fair guess that it’d err towards open loop like with startup?
Paging Dan, Crazyvanman, et al… _________________ 1984 Westfailure/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere." — Colin Chapman
Jonathan Weisheit, Race in Peace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dS7xiFn7I&t=500s |
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2025 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Wildthings wrote: |
4Gears4Tires wrote: |
Thoughts? Suggestions? |
Clogged fuel filter |
I had already assumed clogged fuel filter before I made the post and ordered a replacement. Even though the one in there was only about a 1000 miles old.
Anyway, that was the cause. I swapped in the new filter today and added a carb low pressure filter as a pre filter because they're clear.
This is after just priming the fuel system by turning the key to the on position once.
After driving down the block and back
I guess I'll keep a line clamp and a few spare carb filters in the glove box while I order a new tank and grommet refresh kit. _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
'85 Westy Sciuridae Domus Edition |
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