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BMFBMF Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2020 Posts: 532 Location: Swtzerland
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:15 am Post subject: Rim overhaul |
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Hi folks, my Mabor/general tires were from the Mozambique factory And date from the year 2000 from when the car still lived in South Africa.
They are amazing tires and still show no sign of cracking but I am very aware of their reduced grip because of their age.
I am slowly starting to think about a new set, but I wondering what I should do with regards to the rims. Over the years at least twice I've wire brushed the outside and repainted them in silver and they still look great.
When I get the new tires, I plan to take the old wheels to the dealer and remove the old tires and then bring the rims back home for inspection. I can then see if there's any rust or any other problems.
Has anyone else been through this, what advice is there with regards to treating the inside of the rims, or just leave good enough alone?
Does anyone know what kind of treatment was applied to the inside originally?
It's a 71 but in South Africa they were still using the five bolt pattern, so that's what I have. _________________ -----Slava Ukraini-----
1971 Stock South African Beetle 1300 : My mom's european "Thin Chick" spec. Completely stock with torsion bar front, swingaxle rear, smooth hubs, single MC, 40 mm shoes, 31PICT3 carb and 5 bolt drums all round, currently Running a 1976 SF:AS engine with the original SF:AD engine overhauled in a box, waiting to go back in one day. |
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Bobs67vwagen Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 864 Location: Eastern north carolina
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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| The insides of the rim were painted although not very well I have found over the years. If they are rusted inside it's a good idea to sand. Treat the rust, and then paint with either spray can or brush on. Pay close attention to where the bead is on the rim. This is where a tubeless tire seals. I have had to bondo some of these to make it smooth enough to seal the tire. Good luck-Bob |
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goober Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2003 Posts: 1242
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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I can tell you what I do.
Where the bead sits up against the rim is most important. It should be smooth on the rim flat surface and side lip.
I scrape any loose rust and scale away with an old knife. I then file the surfaces as smooth and evenly as possible.
By hand I continue using sandpaper followed by steel wool then a coat of aluminum paint.
Any remaining blemishes are usually not a problem. Unless the rims are in really bad shape they should seal. I break any sharp edges around the stem hole and use good quality new stems. I do this every time I need tires.
I also mount my own tires. For the tire balance dots and rim placement I check Google for the latest info. I go slow, it takes me several days. But I get the job I want.
When mounted, I put 20 psi in each tire and take the 4 tires to my local Farm & Fleet and have them balanced. Over the decades I've never had a bad balance job from them.
IMO, trouble-free tire life, mounting and driving starts with good rims. |
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pondoras box Samba Member

Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 1894 Location: Warren, PA
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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Powder coat them and never have to deal with it again.
The big thing that everyone will say is that’s it soft and will cause your lug bolts to loosen and lose a wheel. Just tell your power coat guy to not put any powder on the beveled surface where the bolt and rim seat together. You can mask and paint this area after the wheels are done, problem solved.
I have done several sets like this without any issues. The only set I still own is a set for water cooled rabbit. But no one has called and told me the wheels fell off their car either.
Finding a powder coating shop that will do small jobs can be an issue sometimes.
If you do decide to paint them use automotive paint with a hardening agent in it. You can get these put into spray paint style cans if you don’t have a compressor and and facility to paint. Another alternative to this is use regular spray paint and then coat with a clear with hardener in it. I’ve done this with excellent results. Look at my bus thread and find the belly pan and front inner wheelhouse pics. I used a product called 2K it’s in a spray can and you mix it and use it right in the can no mess or additional supplies needed.
Post pics of your results so we can enjoy them too! _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1960 hardtop
1964 hardtop
1965 hardtop (Arschloch)
1973 standard bug (Dirty Gertie)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=804912
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BMFBMF Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2020 Posts: 532 Location: Swtzerland
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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Thanks for the input folks, living in the highveld in South Africa. There's no salt and no rain so I expect them to be in good Nick but will share photos when I get there. Probably this winter. Main thing putting me off is the shocking price of new tires. Eeep! _________________ -----Slava Ukraini-----
1971 Stock South African Beetle 1300 : My mom's european "Thin Chick" spec. Completely stock with torsion bar front, swingaxle rear, smooth hubs, single MC, 40 mm shoes, 31PICT3 carb and 5 bolt drums all round, currently Running a 1976 SF:AS engine with the original SF:AD engine overhauled in a box, waiting to go back in one day. |
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jinx758 Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2014 Posts: 1046 Location: half a bubble from plumb
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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@ BMFBMF ...
EEEP is rite !
Yesterday the wife & I were at a nation-wide tire place putting 2 tires on her "new" 12yr old vehicle.
Just for grins I asked how much a 185 series would cost.
$369.00 - before tax, mounting, & balancing
At least they were Michelins but no M&S rating. Used to get them out the door for $56 back in the 90s for my '74.
Almost needed to borrow her inhaler ... stay safe
jinx _________________ " It's not valuable unless you learn something from an experience. " Henry Ford
It's not unlike the same difference ...
My Craigslist rescued 100 footer :
1971 Standard Bug
1776cc dual port
034 distributor
38mm EGAS Carburetor |
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beetle08 Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2005 Posts: 163 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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This is how I did mine: powder coated the wheels black (masked off the lug nut seats), than painted the faces with WURTH wheel silver, and clear coat.
Good luck! _________________ 1973 VW 1303 GSR
1973 VW Jeans Beetle
1991 Porsche 964 Carrera 2
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bugger-off Samba Member

Joined: March 29, 2025 Posts: 112
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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| jinx758 wrote: |
...Used to get them out the door for $56 back in the 90s for my '74.
jinx |
Yeah, and you could buy a new half ton for $17k!  |
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viiking Samba Member

Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 3435 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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| bugger-off wrote: |
| jinx758 wrote: |
...Used to get them out the door for $56 back in the 90s for my '74.
jinx |
Yeah, and you could buy a new half ton for $17k!  |
And my Dad's new 68 was AUD1999 when he bought it. I was there when he paid it in cash. He did ask for the $1 back from the $2000 that he gave them. _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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Bobs67vwagen Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 864 Location: Eastern north carolina
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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| My new 1970 diamond blue bug with leatherette, am radio, and tapered tailpipes was $1839 US plus tax. My dad and I paid cash and drove it off the lot . What a great feeling and boy how times have changed. |
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bomberbob Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2015 Posts: 774 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 6:34 am Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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Does anyone have issues with rust in the "crack" where the wheel pieces meet? When I had my wheels sandblasted and powder coated, the shop that did it said that powder coat doesn't want to go down in that crack, so its prone to rust later. He suggested putting clear RTV down in the crack. I laid the wheels down and using a syringe squirted clear down in the crack. That way I was able to get it to run and flow all the way around. Have not had any rust appear. _________________ 1968 Beetle torn apart again
1990 Jetta GLI megasquirted, burning E85 (currently in storage)
2004 Jetta turbo GLI
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Bobs67vwagen Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 864 Location: Eastern north carolina
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Rim overhaul |
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| I use a dental tool on that seam followed by sandpaper pressed in there, cleaned and then paint. |
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