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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 10:59 am    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

1st, kudos for accepting the responsibility of the missing communication/information that started the shitshow. We can only act on the info we receive.

2nd What IS effective, is conveying information that would be helpful to get the help you want. We CAN'T read your mind so can only go off the info you provide (or don't provide) Any of us in relationships know how unfair its when the other person expects us to know what's happening for them and act like we know when they don't tell us.

3rd it is the responsibility of the person conveying the info and requesting help/a change in the current situation to convey info and the request IN SUCH A WAY that those they want help/action from are able and are inclined to help/act. If the message is not delivered in a way that the listener is moved the desired result will not be accomplished - and to blame the listener for not knowing or asking is ineffective to accomplishing the desired result.

In essence - make it easy to help you.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

To the o/p...

If I said anything to bother you, so be it. A lot gets lost in translation on these forums. I'll be the first to admit I have taken stuff out of context in the past.

That said, I have to ask...not you but in general... you're not he first to say it but I hear the terms "the stress of breaking down" all the time here it seems.

Guess what? new shit breaks too. What is there to stress over? You call a tow truck and get a rental, period. All of the life altering drama of a breakdown is nonsense....I have to wonder how people would handle a legit emergency.

And if you freak about the cost of a tow/rental etc maybe you shouldn't wander too far from home, and maybe you simply can't afford to own one of these.

I myself had to pay for a 1K tow. It is what it is. But I didn't "stress" over it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

"stress" didn't exist until the 1920's

insightful reading https://humanstress.ca/stress/what-is-stress/history-of-stress/

Hans Selye began using the term stress after completing his medical training at the University of Montreal in the 1920โ€™s

Its NUTS
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

vanis13 wrote:
"stress" didn't exist until the 1920's

insightful reading https://humanstress.ca/stress/what-is-stress/history-of-stress/

Hans Selye began using the term stress after completing his medical training at the University of Montreal in the 1920โ€™s

Its NUTS


Thats why we are invading Canada.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

i've managed to only get towed about 4 times over the last 20yrs of van ownership..
and fwiw each time, by the time I threw in the towel and called the tow.
stress was minimal, accepting it's outta my hands and into someone else's to get me and my family home safe.

as mentioned I've been towed twice of my 4 this year alone..
we can get into the AAA arguements, man some of you cheap gass guys... it's $120/yr $10/mo of peace of mind and it's recovred if used once/10yrs..
that's how much an uninsured tow is.. ALOT.

and sure, one of this years tows was 4miles from home. me alone and a dead van safely shouldered in the middle of a construction zone (cones&barrels galore)
could have called in local friend/family favors and dealt with it, but fuqit it's why I pay for the AAA insurance anyways..

just carrying on the side conversation here.

it's stressful (for me) when I don't know what it is, where it is or how to fix it if I can... I DIY and built this van and it's a road weary soldier.. sometimes a hip gives out.

keep on motoring on
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

Think weโ€™re at five, since 2013, over about 130,000 miles.

6/14 โ€” Alternator lost, no spare (but have since!), towed to Ukiah, CA
6/15 โ€” Waterlogged, evap tank hole in downpour, towed to motel, Golden, CO
6/15 โ€” Towed to Denver shop next morning
8/18 โ€” Total loss crash, towed to Portland, OR
6/22 โ€” Blown engine, towed to Durango, CO

The latter two preceded most of a year of downtimeโ€ฆ stressful as Hell.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

I thought some of the posters above went too hard on you. They know who they are. I am not normally a patient person, but I have learned here on the Samba to be far more patient. That`s a really good thing and I have followed the example set by many other posters here on the Samba and also on the Audi sites I frequent.

I think that I saw early on what got some posters annoyed in this particular thread. The explain this sound videos are some of the most fun for us armchair mechanics and the video you supplied was too short and too shaky to give a response. I am sure that there is a good reason why that is so, but regardless, people want to help and get annoyed when they cannot help due to lack of info. The trick for us folks trying to help is to stay calm and keep at it and not give in to the temptation to unload on the hapless OP.

I hope you find the source of the noise, get it fixed, and get a good price for your rig. I truly think that luck has a role in all of this as the breakdowns we often experience could just as well have occurred always on a grocery run and never occur on a vacation. But at a certain point, some of us stop loving the Westy and the Westy will never know how that came about.

I do hope that whatever rig replaces your Westy will give you some good road trips and no more Griswold vacations.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

vanis13 wrote:
1st, kudos for accepting the responsibility of the missing communication/information that started the shitshow. We can only act on the info we receive."



"started this shitshow" - give me a break man. I didn't start this garbage, and that was not the intended purpose of my responses, but its interesting that that is all you took from what I wrote.

And you...perhaps you might accept some accountability yourself my dude? You aren't children who get to act like a jerks because you don't have what you want in front of you. Being an adult takes work. And restraint. And patience. And kindness. It's what makes the world go around. Or not.


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"2nd What IS effective, is conveying information that would be helpful to get the help you want. We CAN'T read your mind so can only go off the info you provide (or don't provide)"



So show some restraint and ask some questions. Instead of throwing a whole ball of garbage at someone. It's a sucker punch. You know it is.

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"Any of us in relationships know how unfair its when the other person expects us to know what's happening for them and act like we know when they don't tell us."



Wait, are we in a relationship? Wait, we aren't. We're on a bbs where you can either respond or not. You chose to. And you did so like an asshole. Own it. And my dude, if this was a relationship, and you did that after not getting the info you wanted (instead of asking some questions), well, I think you see where i'm going.


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"3rd it is the responsibility of the person conveying the info and requesting help/a change in the current situation to convey info and the request IN SUCH A WAY that those they want help/action from are able and are inclined to help/act."



And if you don't get what you want out of the first post, what then? What happens then? Lets see. You can ask questions, not respond, give advice on what you've seen, or do any number of things except sling blame and throw unfounded accusations around. But you write a response like this that accept zero blame for being a wanker. Read my back posts. I give as much info as possible. This time was a stressed out 'fuck i'm stuck' situation. The video wasn't great. I didn't want to risk running it any longer, so thats what I felt safe posting. An intelligent, controlled response coming from a place of kindness (because why the hell else would you be on here reading these - aren't you trying to help people?) would have been something like the other folks who said it was too short, or that they couldn't tell what was going on bc it was to shakey, etc. Or the other folks who gave advice or asked questions. But you tried to dig yourself out of the other hole you were in before where I called you on being a dingus. In neither post did I deserve the garbage you gave. Own it or not, but to me it couldn't be more obvious.


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"If the message is not delivered in a way that the listener is moved the desired result will not be accomplished - and to blame the listener for not knowing or asking is ineffective to accomplishing the desired result."


Justify bad behavior in whatever way makes you sleep at night. When you act like a jerk and someone points out that you acted like a jerk, thats not on me. Its still on you. I owned my part, all that I feel is due to me. Thats what i've got here.

Like I said before when you ripped me up about the cut O2 sensor without asking me anything about it, i'm not interested in your life lessons dude (at this stage in the game I pick and choose carefully who I let advise me and this falls pretty short of being good advice). And i'm not interested in whatever response you might throw at me to justify being an asshole that might come of this post. I've explained myself and i'm tired of this drama.

To the rest of you reading this, lets call this thread done. I appreciate everyone who chimed in with ideas, kind words, and good vibes. I still love the Samba and am deeply indebted to those who have helped me (MWard (your the shit, thank you a ton), danfromsyr, ?Waldo?, Wildthings (you too man, always helpful), IdahoDoug, zerotofifty, Xevon, crazyvwvanman (awesome help many times) and the many other dudes who have help me out, offered a phone call, meet up, etc, you guys are amazing and thank you). Its a great site and so helpful.

But to the guys with a whole lot of piss in their vinegar, hopefully the criticism on my part and others makes you pause a minute before you respond. Lifes too short.

PEACE Sambanistas!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

Hate to see you leaving, Iโ€™d hoped youโ€™d reconsider.

As someone above posted, I suspect many or most of us have gotten tired enough to sell. We certainly have, and I PMed you last night before posting.

Thanks for your reply earlier. I also have a body shop history with my brother and step-dad, and myself as a pinstriper since 1977.

All the Best, stay cool.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

Peace, indeed. Samba sympathy for the sh!!tposting in here.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

So we never get to find out what the mechanical problem was?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

OPโ€ฆ Western mass is much too nice a place to live to not have a T3

So many beautiful weekend trips you can take and be back to work and kids back to school on Mondayโ€ฆI did it for 30 years out of Albany.

Youโ€™ve got Andrew Flint in Nassau a hour away who will get you put right, not cheap, but quality never is.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

It sounds like the Samba peanut gallery has 'scared off' another member. Third one I know of in this month, but August is only half over.

I really don't get this hazing and confrontational attitude that gets thrown at new or less active posters. What is going on in your lives that you bring that sort of behavior to this forum?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

Here's the update for anyone who is curious.

It was a transmission sensor that came loose and was banging around in there. The shop pulled it down and did the main seal while in there bc that was leaky.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

jkaput wrote:
Here's the update for anyone who is curious.

It was a transmission sensor that came loose and was banging around in there. The shop pulled it down and did the main seal while in there bc that was leaky.
Ah, the no longer used VW diagnostic sensor . d'oh!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

jkaput wrote:
Here's the update for anyone who is curious.

It was a transmission sensor that came loose and was banging around in there. The shop pulled it down and did the main seal while in there bc that was leaky.


Look up Andrew, about an hour west of you. He knows these things stem to stern and will get you running and enjoying the beautiful Berkshireโ€™s
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Noise is much worse Reply with quote

"Look up Andrew, about an hour west of you. He knows these things stem to stern and will get you running and enjoying the beautiful Berkshireโ€™s"

Thanks for the info and encouragement. Honestly, the wife and I are investigating vintage trailers lately (Airflytes, etc). She's is done. Me too, at least for now. It took a while. I've done a shit ton of work on this thing over the years, all shade tree style, under the pines on a piece of cardboard. Its time to sell - or at least take a break from thinking and working on it and focus on other things. Appreciate the positivity though, and I wish you well.
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